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hoovered the gutters out and then cleaned outsides with my wfpi noticed the down pipe connection pipe wasnt quite joined right to the guttereing so i shown the man he says ok no worries.2 mins later was cleaning outide near it and the bit of the pipe came crashing down i told him he says no worries mate you havent done it,i will get another one!so i have offered to put it on for him,he was happy with that,thank good some custys are great!