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Cov_Cleaner

0ppm Distilled Water
« on: December 22, 2003, 01:34:32 am »
Anyone know if 0ppm Distilled Water is available in the shops?

Cov_Cleaner

Re: 0ppm Distilled Water
« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2003, 06:20:38 pm »
I've ordered 5 litres from my local chemist. He said it was what doctors use, 100% pure and 0ppm. Only £2.60. Will let you know how it goes tomorrow night.

pdhanson

Re: 0ppm Distilled Water
« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2003, 06:40:12 pm »
yes please do, I'm interested to know.

(The problem I've found is that unless you have a TDS meter, you never really know if its any good until you use it)

Try on your own windows first to avoid customer complaints

silly

CK2003

Re: 0ppm Distilled Water
« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2003, 10:18:17 pm »
I'm pretty new to this so could someone please tell me the benefits of using 0ppm distilled water? thanks ppl.

-CK

Re: 0ppm Distilled Water
« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2003, 10:55:03 pm »
The only really good use for 0ppm water is if your using high reach water poles as the pure water cleans at high windows and evaporates without drying if your using it in a bucket no difference to normal water as your taking all its impurities away as soon as you add cleaning solution.

Cov_Cleaner

Re: 0ppm Distilled Water
« Reply #5 on: December 23, 2003, 12:26:43 am »
Quote
I'm pretty new to this so could someone please tell me the benefits of using 0ppm distilled water? thanks ppl.

-CK


My intentions are: To put my 'T'Bar sleeve through the washing machine (without soap) to get rid of any remaining fairy liquid. Dry it.  Attach the 'T' bar to a pole along with a garden spray lance, an extended tube and a pressure pump bottle!

Sounds far too easy I know! BUT it's me who has to test the water!!! If it's NHS Approved, I can't see any reason for failure!! ;)

Thanks to the gardening section of index for help with spelling & ammendments! Sorry, only gardeners need to know those words (usually) !!!

pdhanson

Re: 0ppm Distilled Water
« Reply #6 on: December 24, 2003, 01:29:01 am »
Cov Cleaner,

I am engaged in a similar project myself.

I already have a pole, brush and hose, which I have connected to a pressure sprayer.  (The pressure generated is well adequate to pump the water up 30-40 feet)

I have decided after much faffing around to get a little DI cartridge to make the water to put in it.  The problem I have found with pre-bottled water is that, no matter how good it is at source, the process of shipping etc alows time for algae and stuff to grow and its then not pure enough.

If you just need 5 litres or so to test your idea, I dont mind doing you some when I get my cartridge and sending it to you.

I know how frustrating it is not to have anything to even experiment with!

Silly

Cov_Cleaner

Re: 0ppm Distilled Water
« Reply #7 on: December 24, 2003, 07:35:04 pm »
Thanks Silly, that's good of you. I think the delivery would be a bit costly. I've just posted an Upholstery lance/pipes with parcel force which cost nearly a fiver! It would be good  If we could meet up in the new year for a bit of a demo. My partner is a serious sceptic!

That water from the chemist was about the best I've tried. My partner had to look really hard to find the spots!

pdhanson

Re: 0ppm Distilled Water
« Reply #8 on: December 27, 2003, 09:22:17 pm »
Hey Cov Cleaner, I came across this and thought of you!

http://www.machinemart.co.uk/product.asp?p=051712215

Apparently will hold 15-20 litres.  Electrically powered ones are also available, though they are costly (~£109)

Silly

Cov_Cleaner

Re: 0ppm Distilled Water
« Reply #9 on: December 27, 2003, 10:59:19 pm »
Thanks for that silly. That should do the trick. I may buy a filter soon and make up my own water.

Can anyone tell me how the pressure of a garden sprayer compares with that of a pole system?

Peter Fogwill

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Re: 0ppm Distilled Water
« Reply #10 on: December 27, 2003, 11:40:57 pm »
They are not too bad, it takes a little longer to clean the window as you are hanging around waiting on enough water to rinse the window, but it is an ideal cheap way to get the water up the hose to the window, especially in awkward places where a tap is not available.  

At least it let's you try pure water cleaning at a very minimal cost.

Peter

pdhanson

Re: 0ppm Distilled Water
« Reply #11 on: January 05, 2004, 12:44:14 am »
I couldnt resist the temtation to open up a brita filter cartridge the other day, and guess what I found?

You guessed it - RESIN
(I'm sure Reuban/Peter will put us right as to whether its the same resin as they use)

Also some activated charcoal.  If you wanted to make a small amount of DI water, you could bey a few cartridges and fill up a coke bottle with the resin.

Hey presto, a cheapish resin filter.  Feed a pipe to the very bottom for the feed water, and let the filtered water overflow out the top and collect it in a bowl.

Each cartridge contains 150ml of resin

Argos, 6 Cartridges for £12.99 = almost a litre of resin.  Should make 100 litres of pure water in soft areas, maybe 50 in hard water areas.

Will try this idea tomorrow

Silly

Peter Fogwill

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Re: 0ppm Distilled Water
« Reply #12 on: January 05, 2004, 01:36:48 am »
Quote
I couldnt resist the temtation to open up a brita filter cartridge the other day, and guess what I found?

You guessed it - RESIN
(I'm sure Reuban/Peter will put us right as to whether its the same resin as they use)

Also some activated charcoal.  If you wanted to make a small amount of DI water, you could bey a few cartridges and fill up a coke bottle with the resin.

Hey presto, a cheapish resin filter.  Feed a pipe to the very bottom for the feed water, and let the filtered water overflow out the top and collect it in a bowl.

Each cartridge contains 150ml of resin

Argos, 6 Cartridges for £12.99 = almost a litre of resin.  Should make 100 litres of pure water in soft areas, maybe 50 in hard water areas.

Will try this idea tomorrow

Silly


Silly, I have never heard of a brita filter, maybe something to do with me being in a soft water area. Is it one of them things for under your sink?

If so is the water not purified coming out of the filter without taking the resin out?

I don't know if the coke bottle thing would work, for one thing the resin would come out the overflow along with the water, unless you had a filter of some sort on it.

At £12.99 it seems like an expensive way to get 1L of resin.

Peter

karlosdaze

Re: 0ppm Distilled Water
« Reply #13 on: January 05, 2004, 02:29:02 am »
I've seen those Brita filters here, in Mallorca. Basically its a jug thats fitted with a filter for drinking water purposes. I tested water that had been passed through it, it removed 200ppm and left the water at 800ppm :o It says that it takes out the impurities in water, and thats it. Not the calcium or other properties you need excluded for wf systems. The difference is notably calcium and other trace elements are good for your body, thats why people in hard water areas have a higher life expectancy than those in soft water areas.

pdhanson

Re: 0ppm Distilled Water
« Reply #14 on: January 05, 2004, 02:14:46 pm »
Brita system is a jug that has a fitting for a small cartridge, which you put your water in, and it flows through the cartidge.  The idea is that you then use it for drinking and the kettle etc where you dont want lime scale.  Have a look here:

http://www.brita.co.uk/action/products/

Since brita, other companies have come up with their own versions, Kenwood, Morphy Richards etc.  Bit cheaper.  It was Kenwood cartidges I used.

The water through one filter isnt pure enough, as there is only a small amount of resin in 1 cartridge. (I tried it before)

I put all that resin in the coke bottle, (good point about the resin spilling out too- an old, but clean sock came to the rescue as a filter) I ended up dribbling it in the top, and syphoning it from the bottom.  Was slow but okay.  Have just done my windows with it, waiting for it to dry now.

I'm wondering if it is the proper type of resin needed, "strong acid" instead of "weak acid" resin that will only remove some dissolved solids.

Silly

[expensive, yes.  But alternative is 25litres at ~£70 and is only to test my idea)