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Wfp on the ground floor?
« on: August 15, 2005, 08:59:04 pm »
As some of you will already know, since I had illness that put me out of work for nearly 6 months (heart attack) I started back doing ground floor work trad w/c.
about 70% still ground floor but because I am so well known locally and so good ;D ;D higher work is returning. 
Is it worth getting into Wfp on that basis?  Would it really imrove my work?
Will I work quicker, thus increase profit?
Will it help if I get a cat and stick an unger applicator up it and use that instead?
Pj

Moderator David@stives

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Re: Wfp on the ground floor?
« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2005, 09:06:23 pm »
well you dont want a relapse on the top of the ladder
hopefully not anyway
if i were you i would keep my feet well and truly planted on the floor ,i had a funny turn on the ladder once and thought i was going to feint ,but i was ok ,really shook me up
makes you think dont it

dave

Ian_Giles

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Re: Wfp on the ground floor?
« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2005, 09:26:17 pm »
If you are taking on more and more higher work then I would say go for a WFP on safety grounds alone.

I have a handful of bungalows and use it on them.
In all fairness it isn't much quicker, but it most certainly is if you wash all the frames as well.
I use it because I think I do a more thorough job, I'm happier because everything gets washed down (unless the frames are all manky (powdery, tatty paintwork) of course.
Although I did have a breakdown while just about to start a large bungalow with a really big, low level (no, not a 'nervous breakdown! A hose problem) conservatory.
I always WFP it, takes me at least 20 minutes or so.
I did it on this  particular occasion the trad way, it took me over 45 minutes, and that didn't include the frames, which always get done with the WFP.

So it may well improve your profitability, it really does depend on the individual accounts that you do clean.

Also of course, it means that all work is no different to cleaning bungalows, life is definitely easier with WFP.

Regards,

Ian
Ian. ISM CLEANING SERVICES

Re: Wfp on the ground floor?
« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2005, 09:42:24 pm »
Thanks for your comments guys.  By the way in the past I have done 50' harness work on really awkward buildings, and some crazy stuff years ago, but it's different these days. 
I do clean all the frames etc.  Always treated it as part of the job.  so looks like I'll be asking which kit soon.  hope you won't mislead me.  I've tried to be good.
Not like some cats.
Pj

P @ F

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Re: Wfp on the ground floor?
« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2005, 09:48:40 pm »
Hi , just started with my wfp today and i did everything with it , it was a fair bit quicker than trad , but i found it was heavy on water use , so make sure you have plenty of space for water .

       Rich P @ F
I'm so lazy I'm getting tired of it !

Re: Wfp on the ground floor?
« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2005, 10:14:05 pm »
Do you mean on the van or at home P @ f?

Pj

Sir Squeaky

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Re: Wfp on the ground floor?
« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2005, 10:24:05 pm »
Also of course, it means that all work is no different to cleaning bungalows, life is definitely easier with WFP.
Nope, still not convinced yet. Not even by you Ian! ;)
Far more hassle setting up and loading.

How many people ask complicated squeegee and ladder questions on here?
It's all "what DI and Ro unit works with this hose and resin pole etc..."

Oh and PJ, what's with the cat problem tonight?!
Did one poop in your bucket or something? ;D

Roger.


matt

Re: Wfp on the ground floor?
« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2005, 10:42:50 pm »
Thanks for your comments guys.  By the way in the past I have done 50' harness work on really awkward buildings, and some crazy stuff years ago, but it's different these days. 
I do clean all the frames etc.  Always treated it as part of the job.  so looks like I'll be asking which kit soon.  hope you won't mislead me.  I've tried to be good.
Not like some cats.
Pj

which kit ?? ?? ??

DIY all the way :)

http://d.co.uk/

you know i makes sence

the question will doing WFP on ground floor make it faster, in my opinion YES

i do 4 houses near me, well behind my house, upstairs has allways been WFP for the last 9 months, they used to take me 1 hour 30 mins, did then last time with WFP allaround, job took 55 mins, my only concearn is if a customer is home, they will think bloody hell XXX quid for 15 mins work

Re: Wfp on the ground floor?
« Reply #8 on: August 15, 2005, 11:34:32 pm »
Thanks for the link Matt
Pj

Ian_Giles

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Re: Wfp on the ground floor?
« Reply #9 on: August 16, 2005, 08:51:16 am »
http://www.window-tools.com/

That is another link to one of the cheaper WFP setups, from trolley's to fully setup van mounts.
Peter Fogwill is always very helpful too.
I have his kit myself, as do many others.
Matt's way is also a good way if you are adept at DIY.

An advantage with going to a company that supplies you with all that you need is that you have come-back if something goes wrong, and they are always at the end of the phone for any technical problems too.

And Roger,
The longer you stay on trad, the less competition there is for me ;)
Though with your own particular circumstances I would go for a trailer system.

You remember the Fisherman pub don't you?

Going absolutely flat out I could do it in 35 minutes (which was quicker by at least 5 minutes than you could do it when you looked after some of my accounts when I went on holiday).
On that one occasion when we had a pint in there, you knocked out 3 domestic accounts in slightly less time and made more money than me :'(
The Fisherman now takes me less than 20 minutes...and thats from turning up to driving away 8)
No more slippery roofs or ladder rungs, no more worrying about the wind (extreme conditions notwithstanding of course ;D) and of course you can't fall off the ground either ;D


Have a good day now y'all 8)


Ian
Ian. ISM CLEANING SERVICES

Sir Squeaky

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Re: Wfp on the ground floor? New
« Reply #10 on: August 16, 2005, 04:33:33 pm »
I'd like to see you do The Fisherman now Ian.

It's all boarded up with big metal sheets.
I suppose you could give them a nice polish! ;D