[Window Washers]

I am writting this as I am wondering why the post with this heading has been locked, I am guessing Clive has locked this to control the post,

But I feel this not right as we all have a say, Clive If you did not lock this post this will soon be done to this post, I doubt it though:



My starting point is you feel the side exit for poles is better than back exit ? this confuses me, I have 4 ports on back of van I can go anywhere, where as if I had side enternce if is floored straigth away as you would need to go right round van should you have more than one house on either side of road.

Slumpbuster please reply, i'm not here to slate you I want to know the answer but I will control the honet replies to it.

Ian

[Clive McDonald]

Yes, i locked it. Brad's posting his system was a big and pleasant surprise, but i still felt a bit like i was talking to myself.There didn't seem to be any informed input from the forum.

Yes, if you have side doors i beleive they are the better option, but working with doors open is not for everyone.I am mostly concerned with small repeat domstic work and this is what suits  for me.

I presume with side ports you lift the reels out? Our reels are fixed because we (i'm including brad) believe this easier.

[Window Washers]

Yes, i locked it. Brad's posting his system was a big and pleasant surprise, but i still felt a bit like i was talking to myself.There didn't seem to be any informed input from the forum.

Yes, if you have side doors i beleive they are the better option, but working with doors open is not for everyone.I am mostly concerned with small repeat domstic work and this is what suits  for me.

I presume with side ports you lift the reels out? Our reels are fixed because we (i'm including brad) believe this easier.

Morning, I always read your posts as I do think you find new ways of working, little baffeled why side would be better than the back tbh.

[niceandclean]

I had my reels fixed to the side doors of my van also, as i find it better, well i prefer to work this way. Mine are fixed to the floor, but Clive, i would love to see your roof mounted reel version if possible? I also have a 3rd outlet at the back behind the bumper for another hose reel for a 3rd person if and when it is needed. I didnt have the reels at the back because i wanted more room to carry equipment, and i also have space in-between the reels at the side, where a gutter vac sits nicely. I like Clive, have an 800 litre skid tank, again this works out well to carry the diesel heater, pumps ect on the platform where i had a cage made up, and can carry ladders and secure them on top of the tank as i dont carry ladders on the roof of the van.  I used to work with the reels at the back, lifting in and out, but when i got a new van and system, i like Clive thought this would be a better way of working, and i much prefer working this way. I can still lock the back of the van if needed, i just close the door up on the microbore. 

[Clive McDonald]

Hi Ian,
Don't feel i'm dissing back doors because i prefer side doors. Custom built ports like you have are definitely a good thing.

Everyone on here who uses an on demand heater has to work with the doors open.We have no choice.Carbon Monoxide aside the heaters turn off automaticly when they sence low oxygen (ie,someones shut the door).

So as the doors have to be open anyway it's a question of the best way of doing things and for me this is side doors.However even if i didn't have to leave the side doors open i wouldn't want to lug the reels out every job.

So in summary some prefer it out the back door, but it's not for me.

Hi nice and clean,

It sounds to me like you have a bigger van than me. I have a couple of issues.One is parking on my own drive, i already have a mwb mr transit on my drive, another van of a similar size might have upset the neighbours.You may remember i did a thread asking the forum how many vans was too many to be on the drive.

When i went shopping for a van and asking on here, it was to be another transit or a ducato. However swb trannys and ducatos and vivaros only have a payload of 900-1000kg.To get up to 1500kg you need the longer wheel base.

My wife said this was too big for our drive but i could have a new scudo at 1200kg which she felt was more acceptable to neighbours. I must point out that my neigbours have never complained, many own businesses and some have vans of their own.(usually only one van per house though)

So the point of the original post was to say that you could stuff a whacking great system into a relatively small van, and you could also ram it full of features and benefits.To my surprise Brad beat me to the punch on this because he had already done it a month before.I often like to mention that i was the first on here to install a hot on demand system, and that i was also the first to crack the electric reel problem.Well i would have liked to have said i was the first (i'm sure a lot will follow) to put a big tank in a little van (legally and safely).

Reference the roof mounted reels these are attached upside down to cross members. These same cross members (three in total about 4" wide)also support the ladders and poles.

[matt]

Everyone on here who uses an on demand heater has to work with the doors open.We have no choice.Carbon Monoxide aside the heaters turn off automaticly when they sence low oxygen (ie,someones shut the door).

Slumpy and anyone else who has gas heaters

B&Q have a Carbon Monoxide alarm for 10 quid at the mo, infact they are 2 for 17 quid, get 1 for your house aswell

[♠Winp®oClean♠]

Nathanael jones has a flue to the outside on his.

[Window Washers]

Slumpbuster, I rarely take the reel out of the van anymore, goes out the back doors, I was wondering why you think the side is the best option and not the back...

[Clive McDonald]

The side door is nearer the driver and passenger seats, the height is better ergonomically to work from, wind can't catch and slam or break fixings on side doors as it can the back doors if they are open.etc

[Window Washers]

The side door is nearer the driver and passenger seats, the height is better ergonomically to work from, wind can't catch and slam or break fixings on side doors as it can the back doors if they are open.etc

any chance you can email me a pic of the door open with reels ect ?

[niceandclean]

Looks good clive, i am still impressed that the cordless drills reel in the hose quick.

[R W C™]

Slump you know the hose fill that runs up the bulk head side that show how high the water is, have you got anything in there that makes it easier to see show high the water is,
im getting a skid tank next as mate of mine installs them,

[Window Washers]

Thanks for putting them up looks very good, I dont surpose you have a camcorder do you  would love to see them in action, how long does the battery last on each reel ?

[niceandclean]

Slump you know the hose fill that runs up the bulk head side that show how high the water is, have you got anything in there that makes it easier to see show high the water is,
im getting a skid tank next as mate of mine installs them,

You could probably take the hose off and put a little ball in, but to be honest you can see the level well enough anyway.

[Clive McDonald]

On the original thread Brad has one that is 'banded'.

Also while your mate is installing i had a couple of extra bits done that may interest you/or not.

First, i did not have the fill up float shut off, i use the lid to fill up, but it might be a good idea for some.
I had a second feed put in (the same place that the level tube comes from). Both feeds have master taps.The primary feed goes to the heater and then the two reelsThe other feed will only be used when needed but has a hose tha feeds to a third pump board and if required i would put the third reel on(just one of those green reels that all the suppliers sell not a redash, but it has been converted to electric drive and the plastic centre spindle replaced with a bullet proof metal one).

The other thing i did was have two tank returns/bypass put in.On the tank this looks like two little plastic periscopes on the top.A  tapped tube goes from these to the connection to pump to reel.The purpose is to diagnose any problems and to depressure the system overnight.
Ian
Matt says i can make the drills run off the leisure battery.The bosh uses one maybe two batterys, the makita up to four as it has now been in use for over two years.I have a charger and invertor on board, but also charge things up overnight.

[Window Washers]

On the original thread Brad has one that is 'banded'.

Also while your mate is installing i had a couple of extra bits done that may interest you/or not.

First, i did not have the fill up float shut off, i use the lid to fill up, but it might be a good idea for some.
I had a second feed put in (the same place that the level tube comes from). Both feeds have master taps.The primary feed goes to the heater and then the two reelsThe other feed will only be used when needed but has a hose tha feeds to a third pump board and if required i would put the third reel on(just one of those green reels that all the suppliers sell not a redash, but it has been converted to electric drive and the plastic centre spindle replaced with a bullet proof metal one).

The other thing i did was have two tank returns/bypass put in.On the tank this looks like two little plastic periscopes on the top.A  tapped tube goes from these to the connection to pump to reel.The purpose is to diagnose any problems and to depressure the system overnight.
Ian
Matt says i can make the drills run off the leisure battery.The bosh uses one maybe two batterys, the makita up to four as it has now been in use for over two years.I have a charger and invertor on board, but also charge things up overnight.

can see you next step convering it to using a battery as matt said..... what are the parts needed to convert to electric reel?

[matt]

On the original thread Brad has one that is 'banded'.

Also while your mate is installing i had a couple of extra bits done that may interest you/or not.

First, i did not have the fill up float shut off, i use the lid to fill up, but it might be a good idea for some.
I had a second feed put in (the same place that the level tube comes from). Both feeds have master taps.The primary feed goes to the heater and then the two reelsThe other feed will only be used when needed but has a hose tha feeds to a third pump board and if required i would put the third reel on(just one of those green reels that all the suppliers sell not a redash, but it has been converted to electric drive and the plastic centre spindle replaced with a bullet proof metal one).

The other thing i did was have two tank returns/bypass put in.On the tank this looks like two little plastic periscopes on the top.A  tapped tube goes from these to the connection to pump to reel.The purpose is to diagnose any problems and to depressure the system overnight.
Ian
Matt says i can make the drills run off the leisure battery.The bosh uses one maybe two batterys, the makita up to four as it has now been in use for over two years.I have a charger and invertor on board, but also charge things up overnight.

can see you next step convering it to using a battery as matt said..... what are the parts needed to convert to electric reel?

look at the battery, you will see the - and + points, take a feed from the points on the Drill, then just fit a switch and run it to a leisure battery / old car battery

job done, 30 mins each drill

[Window Washers]

On the original thread Brad has one that is 'banded'.

Also while your mate is installing i had a couple of extra bits done that may interest you/or not.

First, i did not have the fill up float shut off, i use the lid to fill up, but it might be a good idea for some.
I had a second feed put in (the same place that the level tube comes from). Both feeds have master taps.The primary feed goes to the heater and then the two reelsThe other feed will only be used when needed but has a hose tha feeds to a third pump board and if required i would put the third reel on(just one of those green reels that all the suppliers sell not a redash, but it has been converted to electric drive and the plastic centre spindle replaced with a bullet proof metal one).

The other thing i did was have two tank returns/bypass put in.On the tank this looks like two little plastic periscopes on the top.A  tapped tube goes from these to the connection to pump to reel.The purpose is to diagnose any problems and to depressure the system overnight.
Ian
Matt says i can make the drills run off the leisure battery.The bosh uses one maybe two batterys, the makita up to four as it has now been in use for over two years.I have a charger and invertor on board, but also charge things up overnight.

can see you next step convering it to using a battery as matt said..... what are the parts needed to convert to electric reel?

look at the battery, you will see the - and + points, take a feed from the points on the Drill, then just fit a switch and run it to a leisure battery / old car battery

job done, 30 mins each drill

Cheers for the reply Matt, but the question was for slumpbuster to know what parts you need to make the reel into an electric one. Your answer was helpful though 

[Wizard]

Slumps a good set up Mate Very impressive.Love the drill hose reel set up.