[Sapphire Window Cleaning]

I have heard that if you grit/salt pavement or footpaths because of ice and snow and someone trips or falls on that area the person who applied the grit/salt could be sued.
This is why councils don't grit the pavement anymore.




Matt

[Johnny B]

I have heard this as well. Whoever clears the pavement would be liable in the event of a fall. If it is left untouched, no-one is liable.

John.

[marcus hopkins]

That is correct, as soon as you intervene you are liable for any outcome. Stupid but true.

[Sapphire Window Cleaning]

So if these guys that are salting their customers footpaths after they have cleaned the windows have a claim, I would of thought their public liability would be void.

[niceandclean]

They do here. Went to get a coffee and sausage roll at a local parade of shops, and the council had a ldv pick up shoveling grit on the paths.

[pingu]

If some of you guys are a member of one of these window cleaner federations/unions this might be a very good question to put forward to their lawyers...as this can only be more and more of an issue in the future.

Cheers
Dave.

[Sapphire Window Cleaning]

If some of you guys are a member of one of these window cleaner federations/unions this might be a very good question to put forward to their lawyers...as this can only be more and more of an issue in the future.

Cheers
Dave.

I agree Pingu



Matt

[Craig Trevain]

This is true, our Health and safety adviser has told us not to grit any of our portfolio of apartment blocks, so we now supply grit bins, plastic shovel & grit so the residents disperse it them selves, we just charge to keep these topped up.

[Murdie window cleaning]

There was some bloke on the news earlier saying how more home and shop owners should take responsability for clearing the pavement outside there property and that it was a complete urben myth that you could be sued if someone had a fall.

From a common sense position, how can gritting or salting the area outside your house make you responsable should someone have a fall anyway ?


Oh by the way, my local council have been gritting some of the pavements round my way.

[Sapphire Window Cleaning]

Hi craig, did you have a good Christmas?
Have any of the lads been out window cleaning lately?




Matt


p.s. I got the logo thanks.

[Sapphire Window Cleaning]

There was some bloke on the news earlier saying how more home and shop owners should take responsability for clearing the pavement outside there property and that it was a complete urben myth that you could be sued if someone had a fall.

From a common sense position, how can gritting or salting the area outside your house make you responsable should someone have a fall anyway ?


Oh by the way, my local council have been gritting some of the pavements round my way.

We shouldnt go on about what one guy states on the TV, if any of you guys can ask a business lawyer about this, it would be helpful to all the guys here.



Matt

[Craig Trevain]

Hi Matt

Yes very nice thankyou, no windows being done at mo, 3 of them are supposed to be doing gutters in Kent tomorrow!!
Must be hard on you at the moment. Just keep that heater on, supplied quite a few pumps/membranes today/yesterday to people who were caught out.

[Murdie window cleaning]

There was some bloke on the news earlier saying how more home and shop owners should take responsability for clearing the pavement outside there property and that it was a complete urben myth that you could be sued if someone had a fall.

From a common sense position, how can gritting or salting the area outside your house make you responsable should someone have a fall anyway ?


Oh by the way, my local council have been gritting some of the pavements round my way.

We shouldnt go on about what one guy states on the TV, if any of you guys can ask a business lawyer about this, it would be helpful to all the guys here.



Matt

This was an official from the enviroment agency, not just some random bloke they had stopped in the street. Of course if someone has sought legal advice on this position I would be intrested to know how in these severe winter conditions I could be held liable for a slip someone had on an area of pathway I had cleared and salted. I would surely have taken measures to prevent a slip ocuring not caused it  

[Sapphire Window Cleaning]

Craig I have had my oil filled radiator in the van for about the past 2 weeks, lately its been in the van on full power even through the day! today was -1 at lunchtime, can't wait for March! lol
The met office are saying we have got this for the foreseeable future, off to Portugal again next month for my sisters birthday, think we might go over a week earlier if the weather is like this.



Matt

[mci services]

check this link to the hse, gritting is a recommended form of preventing slips. so write it into your risk assesments

http://www.hse.gov.uk/slips/faq.htm#icyconditions

[TC1]

In a previous life I was a Health & Saftey manager and worked for a large hotel group. I think you will find if you create a "hazard" you have a "duty of care" to reduce the risk of causing harm, therfore salting the ground after you have put water on it to reduce the risk of a slip hazard shows "due dilligance" rather than doing nothing and leave the water to freeze!

Tony