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The Jester of Wibbly

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Do you have freezing issues in a garage?
« on: December 19, 2009, 05:26:18 pm »

Just wondering what feedback other have when using a garage for their WFP equipment storage.

Do you have freezing problems ?
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R W C™

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Re: Do you have freezing issues in a garage?
« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2009, 05:30:12 pm »
My mate has a setup in his garage and last year he went to America for 3 weeks over the christmas period and it all froze up to tops of the resin canistars cracked so you will need heat in there too.

matt

Re: Do you have freezing issues in a garage?
« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2009, 05:51:47 pm »
My mate has a setup in his garage and last year he went to America for 3 weeks over the christmas period and it all froze up to tops of the resin canistars cracked so you will need heat in there too.

that would have most prob been caused by this  :


the pipes would have frozen ( as they hold very little water ) then the ice would have crept along them into the system

on cold night i just disconnect the pipes and that seems to stop any issue


pingu

Re: Do you have freezing issues in a garage?
« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2009, 05:57:06 pm »
Built a cabinate for my ro system all silver foiled bubble wrap plastic and a 60w tube heater with frost-stat....hoses are all with quick disconnect fittings so the mains and waste water pipes can be disconnected and put inside the cabinate.

But with these -13 deg overnight temps I have additionally put a fan heater in the cabinate on a hour on and hour off timer...the tube heater is just not man enough for these temps.

After this winter I will revise my cabinate and re-build it...

Cheers
Dave..

matt

Re: Do you have freezing issues in a garage?
« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2009, 06:00:44 pm »
my next project is a shed down the side of my house

that will have a area that will be insulated and have a socket in it for a heater

might get it done in spring

R W C™

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Re: Do you have freezing issues in a garage?
« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2009, 06:27:22 pm »
Im getting a 22ft by 10ft cabin, going to split it off and one side for water etc and other side for paper work, comp etc

matt

Re: Do you have freezing issues in a garage?
« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2009, 06:33:21 pm »
Im getting a 22ft by 10ft cabin, going to split it off and one side for water etc and other side for paper work, comp etc

i project managed a home office build using a "cabin / summer house" as its base this year it turned out very nice, fully insulated, fully serviced aswell, water, drainage and electric, it doubled up as a guest suite when they had visitors



 

wfp master

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Re: Do you have freezing issues in a garage?
« Reply #7 on: December 19, 2009, 06:45:27 pm »
no dont have one problem solved. ::)

The Jester of Wibbly

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Re: Do you have freezing issues in a garage?
« Reply #8 on: December 19, 2009, 09:09:28 pm »
Good idea, just been out to disconnect the outlet pipe from the DI.  Bitter cold outside, but as I went in the garage temp seemed ok inside
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daztheger

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Re: Do you have freezing issues in a garage?
« Reply #9 on: December 19, 2009, 09:52:22 pm »
put 2x2 (wooden) straps 1.5 metres apart , up the way all along ur garage , then put an inner layer of viscoene around this frame . it will act as insulation trapping the cold beneath the two layers .i moved into a house recently and found this in my garage .it works

Londoner

Re: Do you have freezing issues in a garage?
« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2009, 09:38:31 am »
I have a good solid brick built garage and I have an Alladdin parafin heater out there. It really keeps the garage warm but I have a bit of an issue over cost.
It will burn a gallon of paraffin in 16 hours and the cheapest I can get the paraffin is for £5 a gallon. Homebase sell it for £6 but you only get 4 litres. Also, go in there now and you will find the shelves are empty.

Paraffin used to be less than half the eqivilent price of petrol or diesel but now it is dearer per litre.

Does anyone know of a cheaper source?

Ian Lancaster

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Re: Do you have freezing issues in a garage?
« Reply #11 on: December 20, 2009, 10:11:48 am »
Im getting a 22ft by 10ft cabin, going to split it off and one side for water etc and other side for paper work, comp etc

Be sure to apply for planning permission first - I didn't and the council gave me the option of pulling it down or lowering the roof by a foot.

That was fun ;D  Supported the roof on split uprights held together with G cramps, cut a foot wide section out of the wall all the way round (20 foot x 8 foot) and then lowered the roof down to meet the wall, fixed it back together with battens screwed to both ends of the cut wall frames.

Was alright till the wind picked up while the roof was balancing on the temporary uprights - Lise was hanging onto to it while I frantically rushed round lowering each support in turn till it was down far enough ;D ;D

THERE ARE STRICT CONTROLS ON WHAT YOU CAN BUILD AND WHERE - FIND OUT BEFORE YOU START.   AND YES.........THAT DOES INCLUDE GARDEN SHEDS

jeff1

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Re: Do you have freezing issues in a garage?
« Reply #12 on: December 20, 2009, 10:19:00 am »
Im getting a 22ft by 10ft cabin, going to split it off and one side for water etc and other side for paper work, comp etc

Be sure to apply for planning permission first - I didn't and the council gave me the option of pulling it down or lowering the roof by a foot.

That was fun ;D  Supported the roof on split uprights held together with G cramps, cut a foot wide section out of the wall all the way round (20 foot x 8 foot) and then lowered the roof down to meet the wall, fixed it back together with battens screwed to both ends of the cut wall frames.

Was alright till the wind picked up while the roof was balancing on the temporary uprights - Lise was hanging onto to it while I frantically rushed round lowering each support in turn till it was down far enough ;D ;D

THERE ARE STRICT CONTROLS ON WHAT YOU CAN BUILD AND WHERE - FIND OUT BEFORE YOU START.   AND YES.........THAT DOES INCLUDE GARDEN SHEDS

It aslo has to be a certain distance from the house or its classed as an exstention, even if it is a shed.
I had similar issues when I built my workshop 16'x12' the council came out and took measurments and I was just 5mm within the distance from the house and if he was a rule book man he could have made me move it or charge me rates on it.

So take Ians advice and check the rules for your area first.

Londoner

Re: Do you have freezing issues in a garage?
« Reply #13 on: December 20, 2009, 10:40:10 am »
Not round here, it seems like anything goes. All the asian families are building bungalows at the bottom of thier gardens. Several of my customers have them and you see loads in other gardens when you are up a ladder.
One of my customers in Harrow Weald has been complaining about one built in the garden next door but one. It has cavity walls and rooms inside but the council say its an "office".

Once its been up for two years the council can't make them take it down.

BDCS

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Re: Do you have freezing issues in a garage?
« Reply #14 on: December 20, 2009, 12:27:30 pm »
I have just built a "shed" to keep the bouncy castles in . 7x4 mtrs with brick built cavity walls, double glazing, 100mm celotex with fibreglass roof. Built without planning but within "permitted development, I have complaints from the mingers next door and the council investigated and wrote to those involved and said it was ok. Here's the rules
http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/england/public/buildingwork/projects/workcommonoutbuildings/