[derek west]

thackley cleaning

well if you shrink it, you know who to turn too for the bill.  shaun and the other guy are confident you won't shrink it so go for it, you have there blessing;D

derek

ps... lets give newbies some good advice and say, belgium wiltons are no problem whatsoever. or should we put a doubt in there mind to make them think on the cautious side.? hmmmmmmmmmm

[Shaun_Ashmore]

That's like saying if you don't get a certain stain off then you should blame someone on the forum!

The benefit of being an experienced carpet cleaner when I started aged 6 months is that years ago before TM's were a sprinkle in John Gotts eye most carpets were axministers and wiltons and with the machinery we had then single 1 stage vac motored and poor quality chemicals in comparison to todays then we had this problem day in day out.

Obviously Derek that was aimed at you so I want you to go to the naughty stair and sulk and swear under your breath about me and my know it all attitude.

Shaun

[derek west]

but shaun your talking to newbies like they shouldn't worry. its okay for guys like you who've got 80 years experience to say not to worry, but if youve not cleaned one you should worry, you should be cautious and you should think twice before taking one on. if every ones answer was, "ive cleaned loads with no problems" then a newbie would shrink one straight away.

a woven carpet is a problem carpet, even wool ones. so to say to a newbie, "just get on with it, ive cleaned loads" is irrisponsible.

and for that reason, you! should go to the back of the class, and i want 100 lines of "i must not treat newbies like they've been cleaning for 80 years like me" and no cheating using cut and paste

derek

thats my final word on the matter. apart from maybe the odd "tut!" here and there.

[Susan Dean (1stclean)]

i find 400 psi with heat full on cleans b.w. great as long as your useing a rdm 

[Shaun_Ashmore]

If all of the posts on here were for newbies then we wouldn't get anywhere would we? the trouble is that there isn't one exact way to clean a carpet, there are some simular ways and if you do your checks properly and identify what there is to be cleaned then you should be aware of the circumstances.

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[Thackley Cleaning Services]

cheers for the advice lads so as long as we're careful with the amount of moisture put into the carpet and making sure that we are taking out as much as possible we will be ok.

We would try and do that with all carpets and make sure that it is properly secured prior to vac and cleaning.

The machine i will be going for the is the prochem polaris 800 with the wand attachment.  Its mainly for commercial area (large ones).  i went on their training course and tried it there.  It seems to provide the flexibility that we are looking for for large and smaller areas.

Im not sure how often I will come across a belgian wilton in a commercial environment but thanks for the advice.  Are there any other pitfalls I should be looking to consider specifically for the commercial sector ?

Thanks

[clinton]

I too would recomend to clean a b wilton  but with caution..

I cleaned a indian restaurant a month or so ago and it was not fitted in parts so tacked some of it down and also used a carpet spray glue.

The carpet was a wilton and had been cleaned in the past and had moved in parts..

[Ian Gourlay]

Would you warn your customers of the Dangers,

Or would you just go ahead.

Or would you get customer to sign a disclaimer?

I AM NOT trying to scare new people

I did clean my own this week no problems , but eventually there will be one that may catch you out.

Despite what others may think they are not that easy to streach back

[james roffey]

Well well   
  i started this thread and i would like to say i am reassured that i can even identify one apart from the obvious example i was shown at the NCCA i feel like the kid at the back of the class none the wiser actually seeing these examples is by far the best way, regardine making us cautious thats why i posted in the first place i am cautious by nature were working on a valuable item in a customers home and i am amazed that this subject has not been discussed in the monthly NCCA mag i get each month, i came away from the course in November believing that the example we were shown was the only one to really worry about, i know you can shrink many woven carpets but, the "Belgian Wilton" as it was described to me was a unique problem to be avoided at all cost dry clean only.
 the example we were shown was one that shrunk 6 inches off the grippers in a Hotel 3 days before a wedding reception, and also one that shrunk just from the prespray alone

[clinton]

Have even seen some that have come away from the gripers near patio doors where its cold and a bit damp..

[Ian Gourlay]

Yep Ive seen that in A CARPET SHOP where the wall was damp