[andy east sussex]

customer has called for me to do a treatment in some old place by the sounds of it but what treatment do i use and where do i get it from im really stuck ?

[Pristine Clean]

http://www.ppcsupplies.co.uk/product-list&Text=mites

You can also look here for other product mate as well.

Hope this helps

Dave

[andy east sussex]

any more ideas of what i could use

[peter maybury]

Andy
the supply of specialist insecticides are controlled by the minstry of agriculture and fisheries and unqualified people should not have access to them. Fleas are a particuarly persistent pest and to treat them you need to understand the insects biology and behaviour pattern. Just treating the carpets is not in most cases sufficient to eradicate an infestation. A qualified pest control operator will not just go out and use insecticide at the mention of a possible problem but has the qualifications , knowledge and experience to quantify that a problem exists in the first place.  If you treat a non existing problem then the underlying proble will still be there.
 Smoke bombs are not to be used in habited areas they are for voids and attics (difficult areas to access).etc.
If a flea problem exists it is very easy to take that problem home with you. Tucking your trouse3rs in your socks (as suggested on other forums) is not  going to offer much protection.
www.fleascardiff.co.uk

Peter

[Pristine Clean]

Peter,

You say that smoke bombs should not be used in habited areas. Only hard to reach. Which I agree but if you have ever used this kit before you became qualified it clearly states that the foggers can be used in habited rooms but do not enter until 6 + hours have passed by.

http://www.diypcs.co.uk/acatalog/FLEA_KITS.html

I am not qualified. So only have access to off the shelf stuff. But I have used with great success. I also think just because you have all the paper work does not mean that an individual cant do it successfully. Everything now is becoming too involved.

Everyone looks down on people or advises against it if they do not have the relevent paper work. Qualification on anything.

Soon we will need to be qualified just to go to the toilet and attend a seminar and get an attendance certificate.

Its all to do with getting MONEY.

Dave

[peter maybury]

If you think that it is all about getting money then you carry on!
That is not my ethos I take pride in the service that I provide.
If you are charging your customers to apply diy products the it is the same as somebody hiring a carpet cleaning machine and thinking that he without any training, knowledge and experience is doing the same job as me with my truckmount.
The difference with pest control is the you are exposing your customers to product that can have an impact on their health.

Peter

[derek west]

i'm with peter, its not all about the money, its about pride and doing a good job and customer satisfaction, the money flows from that in my opinion. and so do more jobs.
derek

[Pristine Clean]

No never done it for a customer.

Dont intend to.

I was just refering to everything requires a Qualification or an attendance certificate these days.

It was not actually directed at yourselves Peter if you thought it was or if it appeared that way I appologise.

They other bit was the smoke bombs say they can be used in habitable room. The ones (some) off the shelf do anyway.

Experience counts for nothing anymore. If you have not got a ticket.cert then no one knows anything. I just think its wrong

Just as an example I have a an acquaintance who is an electrician, he is not qualified so after he does the job he gets a qualified person to check  the wiring is upo standard and safe and write the part p ticket. He has never had an issue but he does not have the qualification. Thats what I mean its all about the money. The board I think  NICEIC costs £500 to join and they inspect two jobs a year.
Dave

[peter maybury]

unfortunately that is the way things have to be. On the pest control side a lot of the people that come to us do so out of desperation they
have spent a fortune at the vets and at pet shops they have tried to do it themselves. They have spoken to the flea expert in the pub and already spent far more than I would have charged them anyway. I have had customers phone me to say what a relief the treatment was because of the depression and stigma attached to an infestation. It is something that I feel very strongly about because of the desperation people have with the problem. You not only have to have an understanding of the target species and it behaviour and life cycle and you need to know that that is the problem anyway. I have told people to visit the doctor because I know what I am seeing is not bites. I have had people phone me to thank me because they have been diagnosed with shingles, exhma,  or all sorts of skin complaints.
you cannot afford to be a chancer.
One carpet cleaner spoke to me about a problem that he had with on of his corporate customers that they suggested was fleas. I explained that fleas were unusual in commercial premises (not unknown).
I gave him a quick lesson in fleas and lent him my flea lures which he placed in the premises. The problem turned out to be static. The static was treated and problem solved. That carpet cleaner is now a total professional in the eyes of his customer and he said how professional he felt in the way that he approached the situation. Had he have treated for fleas the problem would still have been there.
Here is a link to diy brain surgery www.idontgive apoop.com

Peter