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gordons

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Paying when not working
« on: May 03, 2005, 07:49:58 pm »
Can anyone tell what they they would do if they had employed someone who was legal and they could not work due to wheather? Would you still have to pay them full wage. I'm just thinking of winter were there could be weeks at a time when there is snow, that means no money coming in but having to pay yourself and employees wage. Can anyone think of a way round this

Duke

Re: Paying when not working
« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2005, 07:59:31 pm »
only give work to self employed cleaners.....they sub-contract to you...when you get paid...they get paid....or, they are responsible for picking up their own cash...but pay you a retainer for the work. I've tried a few options...and this worked the best. (not just in cleaning, but when I was a builder too)

Temps

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Re: Paying when not working
« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2005, 08:09:35 pm »
I have the same problem, had to let an employee off today at 3.30 and will have to pay him till 5.30 his hours of work are 9 to 5.30 and its in his contract

pjulk

Re: Paying when not working
« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2005, 08:13:47 pm »
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I'm just thinking of winter were there could be weeks at a time when there is snow

Gordon

I think you are worrying a bit much.
I doubt you will get weeks at a time when you can't work.
Unless there is a couple of foot of snow you should still be able to get some work done.
Customers may be suprised to see you when it's snowing but no one ever complains.
Or failing that you can still put out leaflets whatever weather so always something to do.
Like duke said if you are going to take someone on take them on as self employed.

Paul

gaza

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Re: Paying when not working
« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2005, 10:49:37 am »
TEMPS: What are you going to do when winter early nights come in ?5.30 is out of the question,1ST make it flexi hours so you can move hrs to suit your work schedule,but give him /her warning you will be starting earlier in two/three days time say,Iwould also tell him/her they will be payed national min for time not producing [check with your accountant if this is possible to draw this into a contract of employment.Iagree with the rest of the forum self/employed is the way to go,or get a w/f/p and do away with employing someone,it may seem a step back but add a squid to your customers bill[eg 100 cleans a wk x 1 squid =100 x 52 wks = 5,200 squid = buy another wfp system then employ someone on the pole.step forward.Ive just found a youth who wants to work after a year of trying slackers,mobile answer phoners,youths who are to tired to get out of bed,to colders including my step son[lasted 5 days]after saying anyone can be a window cleaner. ;D had to prove a point even at 49 still leave these wipper snappers behind :D he will be working on a 60 % profit margin and if he turns up on time and every day 5% extra,in process of building diy pole system for him to start
IM AT THAT AGE MY BACK GOES OUT MORE THAN I DO

UBA1

Re: Paying when not working
« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2005, 11:02:39 am »
When i had lads working for me, i used to pay them 20-25% of the daily turnover, in other words, if they`re not working, they don`t get paid, the harder and quicker they work the more they earn.

20-25% of the daily turnover was working as a pair ( them and me )

OR, if they`re on their todd, i used to go 60-40, they earn 60, i eaqrn 40% of the daily turnover.

c w window cleanin

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Re: Paying when not working
« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2005, 08:00:27 pm »
When i had lads working for me, i used to pay them 20-25% of the daily turnover, in other words, if they`re not working, they don`t get paid, the harder and quicker they work the more they earn.

20-25% of the daily turnover was working as a pair ( them and me )

OR, if they`re on their todd, i used to go 60-40, they earn 60, i eaqrn 40% of the daily turnover.
hi, just read your post...thats a good idea, (the percentage thing)-thanks for posting that!