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mgcleaning

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wfp trolly system
« on: March 06, 2005, 10:20:55 pm »
thinking of making the jump to a more full-time basis sooner rather later and was wondering if trolley system was good enough for a full time round. all views or advice greately appreciated. :-\ thanks in advance
Mal
Life can only be understood backwards; but most be lived forwards.  
Soren Kirkegaard

Ian_Giles

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Re: wfp trolly system
« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2005, 03:24:32 pm »
I disagree completely with Graham, so will a great many others too.
I’ve had a trolley system for coming up 12 months, it mutated quite quickly into a mini van mount, operated directly from the rear of my car.
Trolley is in use often though. There is a fair bit of debate over whether a trolley system or backpack is the best.
There are times when a backpack is the ideal, but for a full days work you are better with a trolley.
In an ideal world you would have all three systems, trolley backpack and van mount, but of course you need a van for a van mount!
And don’t forget you can also get a trailer system too.
My personal opinion is that a trolley is a good way to get into WFP, though you will quickly want to upgrade. I for one haven’t looked back.

Ian
Ian. ISM CLEANING SERVICES

james44

Re: wfp trolly system
« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2005, 07:25:29 pm »
I agree with ian there i have the trolley and backpack, and are going to put a tank in my van as well they all have there uses

AuRavelling79

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Re: wfp trolly system
« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2005, 08:00:47 pm »
I have an established round and used ladders all the time until last month - I have just got an aquatec trolley and am v.pleased with it - however, working out of my car I soon use up my 200 litres of water (3 hrs today) and so will not get a "trailer system" but will soon get a small trailer so I can carry another 8 (weight 200kg) x 25 litre barrels.

I have already ordered bits from Peter F  to allow me to put a hosereel from the trolley pump (which can sit in your vehicle next to a lesiure battery) to make it fit in with the requirements of my round better.

If you're starting your round from scratch you can tailor your round and system (s) more readily.
It's a game of three halves!

AuRavelling79

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Re: wfp trolly system
« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2005, 08:36:04 pm »
I think Graham Gould is off his trolley! ;D
It's a game of three halves!

mgcleaning

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Re: wfp trolly system
« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2005, 09:07:36 pm »
thanks for the opinions guys, i suspected there may be a few different ones and i guess i will just have to consider both points abit deeper before my final decision. I have a seat inca van but i also do carpet cleaning so the van mount is not an option at the moment which is why i was leaning towards the aquatec trolley. and once again thanks
   Mal
Life can only be understood backwards; but most be lived forwards.  
Soren Kirkegaard

Ian_Giles

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Re: wfp trolly system
« Reply #6 on: March 08, 2005, 08:15:32 am »
Fortunately Graham is the only one I have come across who is so vitrolic in his distaste of trolley systems. You will find most of us will give you a far more balanced and objective viewpoint.


Ultimately they all do the same job don't they, you have a water container, be it a 1000l van mount or the 10 or 20l you may carry with a backpack.
You have a battery, hose, pump, pole and brush, and the windows are cleaned with pure water.
A van mount will have a big leisure battery that will power your system all day long.
A backpack has a much smaller one, if used all day long you will need more than one, and they also take well in excess of 24hours to fully recharge.
The same also applies to the Trolley system, but depending on the type of trolley, you can also use with large leisure battery.
A 1000l of water means you aren't going to run out of water, you won't have to keep coming back to the vehicle.
A trolley can carry up to 50l of water, you still have to call back to your vehicle for fresh water supplies, but 50l should enable you to do 3 houses.
With a backpack you are constrained by how much you can carry, if you are carrying 15l of water, plus battery and pump, then that all adds up. Ergo you will have to make frequent trips to top up your water.

Each method does what it says on the tin ;D
It all depends on your own specific needs.

Ian
Ian. ISM CLEANING SERVICES

mgcleaning

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Re: wfp trolly system
« Reply #7 on: March 08, 2005, 09:42:51 pm »
thanks Ian for the indepth view on all the systems, although a van mount would be the prefered option it would not be practile at the moment which is why i am considering the trolly. Maybe i can get going with the trolly and make enough money to up grade and buy second van for c/c :P ;D
Life can only be understood backwards; but most be lived forwards.  
Soren Kirkegaard

AuRavelling79

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Re: wfp trolly system
« Reply #8 on: March 08, 2005, 11:38:37 pm »
How about a trailer? Either a system as per (eg) Aquatec or Ionics or your own trailer with 200 litres/kg of water in barrels plus a trolley and a few barrels in your van?
It's a game of three halves!

mgcleaning

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Re: wfp trolly system
« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2005, 10:48:15 pm »
just seen the ionics trailor on another thread, mmmmm
more choices to consider :-\ :-\ i do like nice shiney things :)
Life can only be understood backwards; but most be lived forwards.  
Soren Kirkegaard