[twt]

Not as much heat is lost with some systems due to the way it works i`ve looked into this part of it,the heater i`m looking at sends hot water straight to the reel with hardly any heat loss.As windowwashers says it`s all down to the quality of the heater.

I also use insulated 8mm hose, not your normal stuff, so futher heat is not lossed whilst the hose lays unreeled on the ground. Since I've started using the insulated hose I've noticed the water drying much quicker. Whilst I'm rinsing the windows, I can watch the top half steaming dry as I'm finishing the bottom half of the pane.

It's about working smarter, if you use a water heater, why stop there, use insulated hose and benefit even further using hot water.

As for tips and tricks for cooling the water down during cold mornings I'll keep that to myself otherwise I'll just read plenty of negative comments from the disbelievers who are happy to stay cold wfp or too tight to invest for their future.

Please share your tips and tricks as high water temp on cold days is something that concerns me.

[Count Phil]

How do you not crack glass on a cold morning Dave?

[Dave Turley]

I reckon that if you're gonna be on a pane for longer than usual (very stubborn mark, for instance), if you urn your flow right down, you will put less heat into the glas and reduce the risk of cracking. most windows just need a quick whizz over with hot. both the windows I cracked were on dirty first cleans at ful flow. it's working up to yet since I thought of it

[Wayne Thomas]

I reckon that if you're gonna be on a pane for longer than usual (very stubborn mark, for instance), if you urn your flow right down, you will put less heat into the glas and reduce the risk of cracking. most windows just need a quick whizz over with hot. both the windows I cracked were on dirty first cleans at ful flow. it's working up to yet since I thought of it

If you are using an on demand heater and you turn your water flow down, the water that comes out will be hotter than when it was at a higher flow.

The slower the flow of water-the hotter the temperature
The faster the flow of water- the cooler the temperature

The longer you spend cleaning a pane of glass, the hotter the glass becomes

[Dave Turley]

when you use a thermostatic mixer valve the temperature is always the same, regardless of the flow

[Mr H]

Some systems do need a certain amount of flow before they switch on so it could be that if its turned right down then the system wouldn't be heating the water to start with. Then when you turn the flow up and it switches on it would take a couple of litres before it reached temp. Don't know if it is that but its a thought.....

Regards
Mr H

[Clive McDonald]

Good info Wayne, a bit thankless but there you are, you explained the benefits and that's what NWH asked. My lpg is about £2 per day on 600l usage @£28 for 19kg.Just about a year now and no problems with an off the shelf unmodified £300 heater.

Are you saying Wayne that you use the Gardiners thermobore? I'd like to but the price scared me.

[Wayne Thomas]

Good info Wayne, a bit thankless but there you are, you explained the benefits and that's what NWH asked. My lpg is about £2 per day on 600l usage @£28 for 19kg.Just about a year now and no problems with an off the shelf unmodified £300 heater.

Are you saying Wayne that you use the Gardiners thermobore? I'd like to but the price scared me.

Hello Discount, yes I bought gardiners thermobore. The price scared me too, but if you don't take calculated chances in life, you'll remain limited by your own fears

I'm always experimenting with different ideas of my own, some work, some don't but unless I take a chance, I'll never find better ways of improving efficiency.