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Ian Gourlay

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Are Fans Any good
« on: September 02, 2008, 08:42:08 am »
I use a Tubo dryer for starting to Dry Upholstery, plus white Terry Towel, but i believe some of you use Fans

Is there a special fan or will any fan or Fans do

Now might be a good time to buy them.
 

Jim_77

Re: Are Fans Any good
« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2008, 09:35:29 am »
I've got some of the Honeywell 18" ones, at the top of this page:

www.rgk.co.uk/acatalog/Air_Movers_Fans.html

Bloody love 'em!  Light and small enough to carry a couple round in the van all the time, but move enough air to dry things in reasonable time.  There are things that start to break on them after chucking them around for a couple of years but they still work just as the day they were bought.

There's an old topic on CT where I gave some tips on modifying them, if you have a bit of a search ;)

The blowers further down the page are worth a look maybe as well, don't know how they match up in quality terms compared to other makes though.

maxcarpets

Re: Are Fans Any good
« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2008, 12:16:13 pm »
My fans love me.

clinton

Re: Are Fans Any good
« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2008, 03:12:28 pm »
Iv never thought about fans for the drying of the job ???

You mean the fand that b and q sell?

Always have used my turbo dryers to dry upholstery and get a few of them going at the same time.. :)

Paul_Ashworth

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Re: Are Fans Any good
« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2008, 04:42:44 pm »
I use a couple of them on most jobs, the last one i bought was a 20 inch from Machine mart and was only about 30 quid plus vat

craigp

Re: Are Fans Any good
« Reply #5 on: September 02, 2008, 05:35:33 pm »
Ian, I too have a couple of 18" honeywell fans like in the link, very good for upholstery, 3 speed, Costco was doing them for £30 at one time.

Re: Are Fans Any good
« Reply #6 on: September 02, 2008, 09:01:39 pm »
Ian, I too have a couple of 18" honeywell fans like in the link, very good for upholstery, 3 speed, Costco was doing them for £30 at one time.

Me too, got mine from Homebase I think but can't remember how much I paid about 2 years ago. Really good for keeping the very hairy GSD cool on hotter days.

Ian Gourlay

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Re: Are Fans Any good
« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2008, 06:44:05 am »
Thanks Honeywell looks good . Was not sure what size I needed .

Joe H

Re: Are Fans Any good
« Reply #8 on: September 04, 2008, 08:02:19 am »
There is a 20" 150w 3 speed fan on Machine Mart website just under £39 inc vat.

clinton

Re: Are Fans Any good
« Reply #9 on: September 04, 2008, 08:04:46 am »
Hi joe

Do you find the fans any good ?

What are the for and against turbo dryers.. cheers clinton

Joe H

Re: Are Fans Any good
« Reply #10 on: September 04, 2008, 11:09:44 am »
Hi Clinton
Not used a fan as being disussed, I have a snail typr mover and a CFR Whole Room Dryer which costs a few bob.
John Bolton and a few others use the fans.

Pperhaps not as robust as a pukka air mover as they are not constructed the same, so they wont stand being "thrown" about, so it depends on the usage and abuse whether they are good or not

Jim_77

Re: Are Fans Any good
« Reply #11 on: September 04, 2008, 12:39:21 pm »
Versus "snail" type air movers, my opinions are that they are much better suited to domestic work.  Sometimes even on lowest setting a big air mover can cause problems such as dislodging dust and fluff from places.  I once put my first coat of sealer on an Amtico floor and then watched in horror as I blew all the fluff out from the top of the cupboards and created a snow storm!  I had to vacuum all the surfaces in the room and then strip the floor off and start again :(

I've also nearly blown a couple of pictures of the wall using big air movers.  They're a lot bigger and more unwieldy than axial fans so it makes it a bit more of a hassle to store and transport them, especially in a small van.  I keep two fans permanently on the van, which is just about manageable in my Scudo with all the other gubbins I carry.

You can buy 3 or 4 fans for the price of one decent air mover.

The air path of snail blowers is very directional, whereas an axial fan spreads over a wider area.  The Honeywell fans can be modified by cutting off the wire loop that acts as a stopper.  As standard you can rotate them through 90 degrees, from either blowing horizontally or pointing straight UP at the ceiling, which is pretty much useless!  If you cut off the stopper you can point them straight DOWN at the carpet which directs air out across the carpet at 360 degrees.  This means you can dry a smallish room with one fan, or something like a through lounge with two fans.

One important thing to do if you cut the stoppers off is to fix a small cable tie quite tightly around the rubber bushes at the pivot points, otherwise they'll split when you swivel the fan downwards.  I found this out the hard way, but the one I managed to save has been fine for the last 2 years like this.  The ones where they split and came off are still usable, I just added in a couple of extra nuts on the bolt to lock it in place.

The speed selector buttons will fall off if they are bumped around, but can be araldited back in place.  The aluminium fascia on the speed control will eventually get dog-eared and come off but that isn't a problem, you don't need it.  You have to re-tighten some of the screws/bolts occasionally but I'd only consider that as normal maintenance for wear & tear.

After cleaning a sofa or armchair carcass you can put a fan on the bench and direct it towards the back, which pushes air sideways and across the arms to dry them.  Very useful.

Some of the cons of a fan vs airmover are that you just don't get the same volume of air flow or pressure, so on bigger commercial jobs they're a bit puny but still do make a difference.

The cable is only quite short, which means you either have to use extension leads or do what I did - cut the plug off and use a male/female connector to extend the cable to about 15ft which I just wrap around the stand of the fan to store it.

That's about all I can think of at the moment.  Sorry for the short reply :D ;D

clinton

Re: Are Fans Any good
« Reply #12 on: September 04, 2008, 10:06:21 pm »
 ;D

Its good to hear your experiences jim as i have also had memories of flying pictures :)


markpowell

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Re: Are Fans Any good
« Reply #13 on: September 04, 2008, 11:03:19 pm »
I was thinking of buying an whole room dryer, how do you guys that use these rate them.
I use the snail type at the moment!
Mark

Jim_77

Re: Are Fans Any good
« Reply #14 on: September 05, 2008, 12:17:41 am »
Never used or seen one but I remember someone talking about their experiences with a WRD a little while ago.

I think the conclusion was that they are good for restoration work but a bit too big and heavy to drag around with you for cleaning.  I think the wheels make big depressions in the carpet too, obviously you can put something under them (I put furniture sliders under my fans for the same reason).

Might get the dust storm & flapping pictures problem same as the snails?

Also I don't know if having a large air flow in the centre of the room would mean very dry carpet very quickly right around the fan but wet edges?  The air flow and pressure obviously decreases the further away from the fan it gets so the edges and corners will take a lot longer to dry than the centre.

Ian Gourlay

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Re: Are Fans Any good
« Reply #15 on: September 05, 2008, 01:03:53 am »
Yes I think we all have problems with pictures with snail at full blast.

Some how today I managed to find a load of dead beatles .

Was thinking of using fans for suites etc  but would be a useful addition for carpets on domestic as well as the turbos

clinton

Re: Are Fans Any good
« Reply #16 on: September 05, 2008, 07:31:07 am »
Think your right on that one ian.,

Also with the turbo,s even little orniments arnt safe if you dont protect them from the turbos,a good tip prob for newbies as it can end up costing money if you did damage them  :o

Joe H

Re: Are Fans Any good
« Reply #17 on: September 05, 2008, 08:12:54 am »
The whole room dryer from CFR is bulkier and slightly heavir then a snail.
The weight is on 4 wheels so they will indent the carpet - use protectors as suggested.

Whatever air is pulled into the machine is distributed thro 360 degrees ie into all corners of the room, unlike a snail which blows in one direction, so the force is less in any single direction so maybe less "hurricane" damage.

I have used mine in a pub and didnt expect it to reach all corners of the room, so I moved it about on it wheels (easy) much like you would have to with a snail as it is only unidirectional. Did the job well.

Smaller room, sa 12x12 feet, no real problem in a central position which has to be better then keep moving a snail.

So there are pros and cons.