[Mr Dvae]

 ???i tried to clean a 3pc the other day,, cotton and viscous and had been treated with something like guardsman. Trouble was everything i had on the van just didn't touch it. fabric restorer, micro splitter didnt do a thing any ideas?

Dave

[Straker Cleaning]

Suggest the customer recalls whoever protected it as it appears to have malfunctioned 

[Ken Wainwright]

Subject to testing, combination clean with shampoo/oxystuff then rinse.

Safe and happy cleaning
Ken

[Derek_Walker]

Could be one of many reasons for this,

The protection treatment was not applied correctly.

The treatment has warn off, how old is the suite ?

Cotton / viscose fabrics appear to suffer quite badly from dye of off certain clothing, causing discolouring which is mostly impossible to clean up. Try Kens idea, this will lighten up the fabric.

The suite has not been maintained regularly enough for the amount of soiling it receives, sometimes people get the wrong type of fabric for there needs. This is not necessarily their fault as they are not informed enough to make that decision.

You may not have cleaned it properly .  Discount the last one, I was only joking with ya.

[lands]

Hi Derek, Saw your van this morning near Tides.

Pete

[Derek_Walker]

Was,nt an early morning swim today was it Pete

Had the day off today, just bought a Transit connect been sorting out some signwriting etc.

[lands]

No Mate, did a small job on the strand. You be careful of the orange vac hose, looks like it will drown you if you have to break hard.

[Mr Dvae]

Thanks for your replys guys

regards

Dave

[mark_roberts]

I think we can be cautious when cleaning fabric which is only right as theres more to go wrong but sometimes the chems we normally would use just wont cut it esp if the suite neglected.

Ive used powerburst from Prochem on several suites with great results and would use high heat to further improve results.  Subject to pre testing of course.

As we say sometimes you have to nuke it.

Mark

[markpowell]

On Trashed upholstery i use Ultrapac renovate pre-spray and fabric fibre to rinse always come up a treat
Mark

[stevegunn]

The fuddy duddies amongst us will be pulling their hair out at some of these replies You use what you need to get desired results subject to testing

[Mr Dvae]

the 3pc is clean and the custy is very happy although what i used could never be published on this site for fear of lowering the 'barr' as u call it.
Basically i used high ph with a grease cutter and this was all i used for my first ten years in the business with far fewer problems than u get these days using pc (politically correct) chemicals.
I was wondering if there were another way to do the job hence the post but it's left me feeling that we have become far too technical for our own good causing ourselves hard work and headaches as time goes by.
I think mark is right when he says 'nuke it' and forget the consequences although touch wood in twenty years i still havn't seen any.

[Derek_Walker]

I think any experienced professionals on here will give good advice, but if they care about the new starters and inexperienced people the advice given will be kept within the boundaries of safe cleaning procedures. Don,t forget if something goes wrong you can end up owning the suite and " sorry madam I was told to nuke the suite by a professional on a cleaning forum " is not going to cut it. Also your insurance company may not cover you for the wrong procedures and chemicals. If you have been in the business for a long time then you know what you can get away with. Sometimes it is only possible to give a guideline answer especially if you don't get the complete picture.

[stevie wonder]

When I was starting out I used fab restore as a prespray,and fab clean in the tank.For really bad soiling ide use traffic clean as a prespray.Big mistake.I went to clean a laura ashley brick red three piece.It cleaned up lovely,Ieven tested it first with high ph traffic from prochem.A couple of hours later I thought my eyes had gone funny,where I had prespayed with traffic clean the suite had gone a lovely orangey black colour.I tried to neutralize it with fabric and fibre rinse but it was to late.Result .Big insurance claim.Never use a high alkaline solution on a suite, even testing it first needs a couple of hours before it reacts.ie when its dry.Dont make the same mistake I made.

[Mr Dvae]

unfortunately the only way u learn is to make mistakes

[colin thomas]

stevie, i too cleaned a suite that changed colour after i left, i paid up and looked big and for a while i didn't use anything strong on suites but after a while i got totally fed up with trying to clean mingers and getting nowhere. i use what i think i have to now, even high ph chems that i would normally clean pub carpets with,   
sometimes needs must

colin  ps do you miss your brother, ray?

[stevie wonder]

Your right Colin.In the maine I use very high ph ,especially on pub and commercial carpets.But dont use it on brick red laura ashleys,she dont like it.PS. Rays gone to georgia.And I miss him dearly.