[David Slater]

Anyone got a piccy or a link to the electric reels?

[Jon-scwindows]

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close the tt's i still cant remember how to put picts on..
I am working on this type of reel but with several extra features to make it ideal for wfpers, and will be mainly designed to attach to the front of the blue steel design 100m reels, so you can buy it and fit yourself easily.
Most of you will have the steel 100m blue or red reels that purefreedom and the like sell, and it does simply( well actually quite complicated) bolt to the front. I wont give any more info til ive got them ready to sell, though should be a good price. Members can reserve them without obligation if you email me at scwcs@aol.com.
This is not a cheapy cordless drill bolted on.
The ones in the link are pretty expensive, redashe also sell lots of designs i think.
If you are interested in my one, it should have about 30-40 of them ready for August/september. In the mean time, i dont think it is too difficult reeling in the hose by hand¬!
chucks away

[windowwashers]

ht tp://www.gilmorekramer.com/more_info/series_30000_hand_crank_and_motor_driven_reels/series_30000_hand_crank_and_motor_driven_reels.shtml


close the tt's i still cant remember how to put picts on..
I am working on this type of reel but with several extra features to make it ideal for wfpers, and will be mainly designed to attach to the front of the blue steel design 100m reels, so you can buy it and fit yourself easily.
Most of you will have the steel 100m blue or red reels that purefreedom and the like sell, and it does simply( well actually quite complicated) bolt to the front. I wont give any more info til ive got them ready to sell, though should be a good price. Members can reserve them without obligation if you email me at scwcs@aol.com.
This is not a cheapy cordless drill bolted on.
The ones in the link are pretty expensive, redashe also sell lots of designs i think.
If you are interested in my one, it should have about 30-40 of them ready for August/september. In the mean time, i dont think it is too difficult reeling in the hose by hand¬!
chucks away

here is the link for this

www.gilmorekramer.com/more_info/series_30000_hand_crank_and_motor_driven_reels/series_30000_hand_crank_and_motor_driven_reels.shtml

[Clive McDonald]

 I've been using this for months and know enough about the subject to say you wont better this.

[Clive McDonald]

Too add to that, the problem you are going to have is in reeling the hose in fast, and I mean fast, in a safe manner.

There is little point in a device that winds in at a sedate speed, you might just as well do it yourself.

The ones in the pics have engineering flaws (for us, they are okay for other applications IMO).

If you saw it, or used it I wouldn't need to say a word, you'd understand. It needs one of groundhogs vids.

[Alistair@AWC]

Is there any reason why retractable hose reels cant be made for 100m hoses, as the longest I have found is 40m?

[Jon-scwindows]

il give you kudos there discount, thats a simple effective method.
My design basically has 12v motor with chain drive, another chain drive to power the hose guide which guides the hose in equally on the reel. There is also a remote control on off operation so when your finished you push a button on your pole and it starts winding in. Also when it is fully reeled in it automatically switches itself off.
There are different speed settings, and a control numpty for speed of guiding in the hose. All with good bearings and encased in a steel or aluminium box with ball bearing roller guides. The motor has a 50kg pull, and turns off if you get caught up. Extra roller guides will be availiable to go around the corners of your van etc.. You will want to mount the reel to the floor of your work vech, though it doesnt have to be. Ideally another leisure battery will be needed, though should last a few days. Or can be wired with your pump battery.
It will be cheaper than the other commercially availiable ones, and will work with most reels.

[Clive McDonald]

That does sound good (better than I had imagined).

There is a real market for this any one who sees it working would want one. For the benefits and improvement to the working day it is well worth £300 to £500.

As a daily user of an electric reel i am not sure you need a switch on the pole, or a remote.

I walk back to the van with the hose attached to me before reeling in. I believe this to be better and safer.

I do not have your guidance system. I run the hose through a damp towel that I hold.

I do not like chains or cogs where fingers can get caught. We live in a very litigous society.

You do though have the germ of a very good product. I tried to tip andrew the wink on this, and someone with his crediblity wouldn't do any harm in marketing terms, but this will sell itself. One look at it working  at a show and your order book would bulge.

[Jon-scwindows]

thats it really, companies are probably reading it now and coming up with something that will be in the market shortly. I dont know about doing a patent, though im sure i could sell a few hundred.
I have sourced all the parts, i just need to finish the prototype and then il put some picts on and maybe a vid of it working.
The remote control start stop button is additional, there is a toggle switch on the motor box so you can also turn it on when you get back to the van so its reeling in when packing poles away, knocking for payment etc..
It took a while to design the mechanical side of things, making the hose roller guide to move back and forward slowly so the hose doesnt come off the reel, and equally rolls on, and there is a small fixing so you can wrap a wrag around to clean the hose while its reeling in. Though it is designed to last and do what we want, im sure it will be very helpful.
I tried using a 12v drill motor, and found it to be too slow, as the motors are very small glorified with a gearbox.
More new in a month or two.

[Clive McDonald]

If i was specing the product I would want a transmission attachment that connected to most reels and applied drive at the same point as a winding handle (the spindle). Most reels have three bars approaching this spindle and it should affix to these.
There should be a lever to engage and disengage, because you don't want the drag of the motor when you are walking out with the reel, but it does need reengaging to wind in.

The spring loaded dog leg clutch i use works well because when i shut the power off the reel can continue to turn freely and doesn't snatch.

The motor should have wires that go to a 12v leisure battery, only one battery is needed to run this and the system, but 110ah is preferable to 75ah etc.

The motor provided should drive the spindle directly with no gearing, meaning that it should be correctly specced for power and speed. (the drill i use works on it's lower speed, but would not work on the higher speed because it can not overcome the inertia of the reel from rest.)

A guidance system is not needed. (IMO).

I think these units which would convert any standard reel to an electric one could be successfully retailed at £150.