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Davo

  • Posts: 412
Re: Dishing old wc !
« Reply #40 on: March 22, 2008, 10:39:54 am »
Blimey, started something there, i was only commenting on the domestic scene in my area. I wondered if it was difficult to pick up work because many householders are so scared of the whole youth culture that's about today. A couple of my customers were broken in to and the windowcleaner automatically became the first suspect. I think trustworthiness becomes an important issue.

Of course image is important, customers must trust you and the service you provide, unfortunately people make assumptions based on appearance, you may be the loveliest man to walk planet earth but if you have love hate tattooed on your knuckles people will make assumptions as to your character.

If groups of youths hang about the area at night, if you dress similar to them then the customer assumes you are the same, unfair but unfortunately true.

If you are nervous on the door the customer will pick up on it, and they will become nervous/uneasy  too. You must have had this same experience yourself, you didnt buy because something wasnt quite right, and usually you just cant put your finger on it.

Customers need to buy you  before they buy your service.

Think like your potential customers think, what would be important for them to use your service?



Mark

TVCS

  • Posts: 884
Re: Dishing old wc !
« Reply #41 on: March 22, 2008, 11:11:44 am »
I'm not trying to jump on the band wagon but over the last few months I have noticed a strong negative attitude from young squeaky.  If it does come across in his body language then that would explain his run of bad luck customer wise.  As regarding the area where you live I think you get it across the country.  The so called posh, snobby folks dont all live in one part of the Uk, they are splashed about everywhere.  Most w/c ers have some on there round.  I have a few.  But its how you put yourself across.  I'm 31 and there are several older shiners in my area.  I am the only WFP er in my town so that was hard to get across to people but I have managed it and I'm sure it would have been alot harder if I was all doom and gloom and not confident with it.  Plus it helps that I'm georgous. ;D
Veni, vidi, vino, splatus.

 (I came, I saw, I drank, I fell over...)

mark dew

  • Posts: 2901
Re: Dishing old wc !
« Reply #42 on: March 22, 2008, 02:43:51 pm »
I'm sure squeaky is being realistic rather than negative. We all i suspect have had customers like squeaky, but we have to be firm with them about how we work or they will take the pee.
As tosh mentioned on this thread:
http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=50711.0
squeaky is too nice and prepared to go the extra mile for a customer when it isn't neccesary.
It winds me up when a customer wants me to clean windows and then expects me to do it their way. Constantly expecting that little bit more to be done that wasn't arraanged when quoting.
It is better to drop customers in my opinion rather than try to placate them further by doing extra work outside of the agreement. Unless a new price can be agreed on.  None of us can relly afford to drop customers but they have a negative effect on how we work if allowed.
Squeaky, you need to be more ruthless mate. Don't be told, be asked and then agree if it's beneficial to you. Otherwise, explain how you work and let them take it or leave it.

Re: Dishing old wc !
« Reply #43 on: March 22, 2008, 03:18:26 pm »
Poor Squeak only has to pop his head over the parapet of "clean it up forum" and he gets shot to pieces. The slightest negativity and you'd think he had comitted a crime! I enjoy his posts, some are tongue in cheek some very honest good luck Rog, we're not all perfect. ;D

Pj

Re: Dishing old wc !
« Reply #44 on: March 22, 2008, 03:34:13 pm »
He enjoys the attention.

No one's had a go at him since he gave up fighting for his old ladder ;D

Moderator David@stives

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Re: Dishing old wc !
« Reply #45 on: March 22, 2008, 04:34:54 pm »
Biggest problem was , he bought Ians Cast offs, lets face it what would you sell first, whingers, moaners, headmistress types, problem houses , horrible areas. Not a good start for a window cleaner.

jonah

Re: Dishing old wc !
« Reply #46 on: March 22, 2008, 04:38:50 pm »
Some good replies, thanks   

Ian_Giles

  • Posts: 2986
Re: Dishing old wc !
« Reply #47 on: March 23, 2008, 05:56:30 pm »
Biggest problem was , he bought Ians Cast offs, lets face it what would you sell first, whingers, moaners, headmistress types, problem houses , horrible areas. Not a good start for a window cleaner.

Hey! :o He had just about my entire domestic round off me! Good accounts and bad accounts! Mostly good work too, but in all areas you have the odd account you hate.
Retrospectively some of the work was underpriced, but it wasn't until I started using the forum that I realised it.

But he hasn't really added to it much, I mean, he has, but nothing like as much as he should have done, some of the areas are really good, and in truth he should now be overflowing with work.
Prior to WFP I'd really wound down my work, was refusing all inquiries, Only worked about 2 and a half days a week, was on the point of packing it all in.
And now without any canvassing  whatsoever I'm so full up I really struggle to get around on time.



Ian
Ian. ISM CLEANING SERVICES