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NWH

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Re: emporium poles
« Reply #40 on: March 11, 2008, 06:35:39 pm »
 ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)

Darren O

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Re: emporium poles
« Reply #41 on: March 11, 2008, 06:42:58 pm »
Acording to Alex pole chart the only poles that are worth buying are his.

NWH

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Re: emporium poles
« Reply #42 on: March 11, 2008, 06:47:55 pm »
LOL i know it looks like that but it`s true,they know what the market demands because there working day in day out using the products.The pole charts are spot on. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

williamx

Re: emporium poles
« Reply #43 on: March 11, 2008, 06:52:36 pm »
The other companies on his chart, are aware of what it says, yet they don't seem to be bringing any evidence to show that its wrong.

Maybe by their deafening silence they are aware that the "Gardiner's chart" might be correct.

Also remember these same companies like to bully us with court action if we say anything that's is not truthful.

NWH

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Re: emporium poles
« Reply #44 on: March 11, 2008, 06:58:36 pm »
Ionic,facelift and all the others have there place,the first 2 are also quality products.I`ve yet to see a better built pole than the facelift,and the ionic systems are in a league of there own if your looking to market your business.

*foxman

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Re: emporium poles
« Reply #45 on: March 11, 2008, 09:34:04 pm »
Acording to Alex pole chart the only poles that are worth buying are his.

Same as the test in the IONIC/PWC mag - the IONIC pole came out on top!

The other companies on his chart, are aware of what it says, yet they don't seem to be bringing any evidence to show that its wrong.

Maybe by their deafening silence they are aware that the "Gardiner's chart" might be correct.

Also remember these same companies like to bully us with court action if we say anything that's is not truthful.

deafening silence? Maybe other companies are not aware, interested or concerned about them. The bottom line is what does it actually mean to anyone? It's how you interpret the info for you own needs is important not what they apparently convey. Not every one wants the same qualities out of a pole.

as for companies threatening legal action against people say anything untrue? Good on em! They have every right to defend themselves against any lies - just the same as anyone of us has.

Alex Gardiner

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Re: emporium poles New
« Reply #46 on: March 11, 2008, 09:54:25 pm »
Of course I publish charts that show the benefits of our products, what kind of a daft salesman would I be otherwise  ;D.  Anyone else is free to do the same tests on both these poles or of any of the other poles we have tested. 

We design our products to excel in certain areas because we feel these areas are important to the end user.  Naturally the tests that I do and the figures I then publish will highlight these benefits.  Potential clients that don't rate lightness and rigidity as their main priorities naturally won't find the charts and statistics of as much interest.  For those that do rate these things though, the charts have proved very useful.

As with the above figures I have just published, if absolute lightness is your main criteria and half a gram per inch is important to you, then you can see from the above statistics that the Emporium pole is the one to go for.  If greater rigidity and strength at the expense of half a gram per inch heavier is more important to you, then it also shows which pole would be best.

However, I will say that without such figures being published and tests being carried out, how is the average mail order customer (which makes up a large percentage of clients in the UK) going to have a clue as to the comparative differences?  I do realize that our firm is so small compared to other companies involved that they probably aren't aware we even exist! (Good job 1000's of our customers are though!)