[Pole2pole]

Evenin all. I just wondered if any of you had any thoughts no the best 400l tank to put in the back of a combo. I'll never fill it totally as i know this is pushing my limits. I'd want a flat tank primarily. Hope one or two of you can speak from experience  Thankyou.

[alanwilson]

Hi there is absolutely no prob in fitting a 400ltr in a combo - and filling it.

I know a local wc who has the same and i've drove it - they have a 600kg payload and the 400ltr flat tank only holds 360ltrs (I used to have one) so

360ltrs = 360kg
tank = 27kg
driver = 85kg
frame for tank = 30kg
poles etc = 40kg (at most)
full tank of fuel = 45kg

total = 587kg

thats assuming a full tank of water, a full tank of fuel, 40kg of equipment (which is seriously a lot more than 90% of us carry).

most of the time you will be easily 100kg within limit.

[dave0123]

iv carried mine with 200lit half tank diesel 1 or 2 ladders on top usal trad stuff! runs smooth etc.

check what payload your van has there is a 600kg and a 740kg both the same vans just diffrent springs

[mark dew]

Hi there is absolutely no prob in fitting a 400ltr in a combo - and filling it.

I know a local wc who has the same and i've drove it - they have a 600kg payload and the 400ltr flat tank only holds 360ltrs (I used to have one) so

360ltrs = 360kg
tank = 27kg
driver = 85kg
frame for tank = 30kg
poles etc = 40kg (at most)
full tank of fuel = 45kg

total = 587kg

thats assuming a full tank of water, a full tank of fuel, 40kg of equipment (which is seriously a lot more than 90% of us carry).

most of the time you will be easily 100kg within limit.

if your using a van mount you should add 20kg for the leisure battery and about the same with 100m of microbore with reel + pump. Also, what about the spare wheel, isn't that part of the load as well or is that part of the vehicle weight? I'm not sure about that one.
You should look in the yellow pages or net for a weighbridge near you and take all your kit and go weigh the vehicle with you inside. I dunno how much it costs nowadays but it used to cost a tenner. If you're under the max load you should keep the paperwork in your glovebox for when or if the police ever pull you over.

[Pole2pole]

Thanks for all your replys. I'm getting to the stage where 250 aint enough but 400 will prob be too much. And of course it always nice to have that bit extra in the event of having help for a day here or there. Cheers folks.   

[john tomkins]

How about adding a 125 to the 250 you already got

[geefree]

How about adding a 125 to the 250 you already got

that may be difficult, 2 tanks.. 2 lots of  fittings, or trying to connect them so one tranfers into another ... .. not to mention setting the alarm when one fills up with pure water....to pop your pipe into the next tank... hmm bit of hassle really,


think i would opt for a abigger tank.  lol

[brightnclean]

Wydale do a 350 tank now aimed at just this type of situation.

I would think that most major suppliers will be able to get them.

http://www.wydaleproducts.co.uk/products/cat/3/wydaletanks/

Upright or flat available I see.

[Nathanael Jones]

I doubt you'd fit a layflat tank between the wheel arches?

I had an upright 400 litre tank in a Pug Partner, and it was a tight fit! There's no way I would have got the layflat in there!

[john tomkins]

How about adding a 125 to the 250 you already got

that may be difficult, 2 tanks.. 2 lots of  fittings, or trying to connect them so one tranfers into another ... .. not to mention setting the alarm when one fills up with pure water....to pop your pipe into the next tank... hmm bit of hassle really,


think i would opt for a abigger tank.  lol

It's what I use, 2 tanks connected to a "T" piece with a on/off valve to 125l tank.
To fill up turn valve off, fill 250, fill 125.
When out working and the 250 tank gets lower than the 125, open the valve and the 2 tanks level out.
Problems happen when you don't shot off the valve when filling up and you walk away and the 250l tries to fill up the already full 125l.
Floods ahoy 

[Pole2pole]

Might just settle for the 350. That'll give me another 100l per day,should i need it. I'll check out wyevale now  I was always gonna 90% fill the 400 so if i fill up the 350 to top, it'll probably be the same,give or take.

[steve m]

I have a combo on an 03 plate, and a 400 litre lay flat tank falls into the back with about two inches to play between the wheel arches. And as a bonus I even get my hose reels behind the tank and shut the doors

[Pole2pole]

Steve. I'm starting to hear things i think i really wanna hear,lol. Where did ya get ya tank from bud? I worked out that i can get a 400 upright but i really really wanna flat tank. Cheers, Dean

[steve m]

I got my tank in hoddesdon,forget the name of the manufacterer sorry

[m.b.s.]

I got my tank in hoddesdon,forget the name of the manufacterer sorry

ive got a 250 in mine did you put it long ways or across also how did you fix it down mine is long ways but takes up most of the floor want to put it across when weather good but dont know haw to fix it down any advise cheers

[steve m]

a freind of mine uses one of those huge metal bending machines ( a press brake I think) and he made me up some metal clamps and long plates for the underneath

[Spruce]

Hi
A local lad on this forum had 2 Combo's - 1 had 400l upright and the other a 400l flat tank.

Both fitted fine.

The lay flat tank just just left sufficient room to fit the hose reel  between it and the rear doors.

Only problem with the flat tank was it's large footprint. If the van was parked the wrong way on a hill, the outlet pipe could suck air even although there was still a fair amount of water left in the tank. Vehicle handling was apparently better with the flat tank.

I prefered the upright tank, which we fitted to my son's Peugeot Partner - he can virtually empty his tank - no problems.
I am kitting out a Citreon Relay for myself to replace my Suzuki Van with trailer combination and have again fitted an upright 650l tank.
An upright tank gives you a lot more floor space for foldup ladders, hose reel, brushes and a couple of plastic boxes with all the odds and ends we carry around incase something goes wrong.

Spruce

[Pole2pole]

I really wanna utilise the space properly next time i do it. I hadn't thought of the air issue. Why would i?lol. It's one of them things you don't think you'll ever need to think about until you find out the hard way. That's the thing with a small van. You really need to think about every last detail. I'm even thinking of welding hosereel to the brackets on the tank. That'd give me enough space for bucket n backpack at the very front of the back  Sorry, it's that time of night 

[macmac]

I have a kangoo with 665kg payload. I have 400ltr tank (lay flat), all wfp gear, 3.5m double ladder on roof, a frame on top of that.
Am i over the limit when full up? don't know but havent had any probs in 4 years
Allthough a lay flat tank has a large footprint, you can put your gear on top of them, hosereel etc, they're very strong.

Tony

[steve m]

easiest way to park when almost empty is to make sure that the drivers side wheels are on the kerb so all the water slops onto the tap side, but saying that we do roughly between 14 and 19 large 3beds a day and havent run out of water yet