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jikwan
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took out inner ring of vikan 10" bristles good results
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November 30, 2007, 05:32:21 pm »
vikan bristles very hard to get splay (unless you use elephants)
much better splay less effort
those centre bristles not neccessary at all
already has an abundance of them after my hacking
those of us using well worn vikans just place them
on the table do you see oval?
the centre bristles make you push a lot
even anew one will make you work
get those middle ones out!
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Jeff Brimble
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Re: took out inner ring of vikan 10" bristles good results
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November 30, 2007, 05:53:01 pm »
That allows the bristles to splay ?
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jikwan
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Re: took out inner ring of vikan 10" bristles good results
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November 30, 2007, 06:47:29 pm »
imagine a 7 row brush
take out all the brisles exept the outer ring
=big splay little effort
use 2 rows all the way round theres more resistance etc etc
im saying the real culprit is centre row
get rid of them
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Re: took out inner ring of vikan 10" bristles good results
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November 30, 2007, 07:20:57 pm »
Theory sounds ok, many like the dual trims cannot splay and act as stiff as a wire brush so you only clean with the tips and on filthy glass you can actually see the lines. Might try it with the Bentley.
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jikwan
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Re: took out inner ring of vikan 10" bristles good results
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November 30, 2007, 07:37:28 pm »
you try it on the bently and you might find a new spring to your step
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Re: took out inner ring of vikan 10" bristles good results
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November 30, 2007, 07:41:53 pm »
Just stick the Addis on.
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Jeff Brimble
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Re: took out inner ring of vikan 10" bristles good results
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November 30, 2007, 07:50:42 pm »
Dont like flocked brushes like the Bentley Jik, I personaly think they cause lots of spotting probs although, because of the increased brush area because of to split ends they float easier on the glass surface but dont seem to scrub as well in heavy dirt- which also gets into the stock.
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jikwan
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Re: took out inner ring of vikan 10" bristles good results
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November 30, 2007, 07:53:45 pm »
well dave
i found recently with addis it wobbles about a lot
theres got to be a definate amount of force behind it for it to splay
anything less than that............its on brush points or else wobbling about
or maybe i ought to drink a few pints less before i start work
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Re: took out inner ring of vikan 10" bristles good results
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November 30, 2007, 07:58:29 pm »
Mmm strange that, because i found it splays with next to no pressure and i'm using a carbon fishing pole. Maybe there are two versions about and i have a soft bristle brush. It's definately more splayable than my Gardiners Superlight. Sounds like you might have a stiff one that skips and judders over the glass?
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jikwan
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Re: took out inner ring of vikan 10" bristles good results
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November 30, 2007, 08:05:24 pm »
my addis from focus
7 quid with sweeping pole
middle brushes white
ehd brushes black
i used it with fishpole the higher the pole is up
the more like a maniac youve got to press down for splay
i must have the wrong type
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Jeff Brimble
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Re: took out inner ring of vikan 10" bristles good results
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November 30, 2007, 08:38:35 pm »
As in other reply try angling the whole head so that all the bristles pint upwards at say 45 and look at the footprint through some glass.
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jikwan
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Re: took out inner ring of vikan 10" bristles good results
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November 30, 2007, 08:52:08 pm »
just tried it
its a very heavy scrubbing action using the outermost underside bristles
and thats the only part of the brush used
and i thought splay meant: place brush parallel to glass and push
all bristles splay out 360 degrees
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November 30, 2007, 09:09:31 pm »
yes when pointing slightly upwards all the bristles become Parallel pointing upwards, the splay is in the side to side scrubbing movent of the brush moving over the glass.
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jikwan
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Re: took out inner ring of vikan 10" bristles good results
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November 30, 2007, 10:27:21 pm »
mindblowing!
you suggested it before but i couldnt get my mind around it then
what ive always done is put brush parallel to glass and push
more i push the more splay i got a 360 degree splay
thought that was the proper way
is it just me or is it a common practice with brush users i mean the 360?
takes a hell of a lot of pushing and pressing
suffering for nothing
cant wait to try it out
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Re: took out inner ring of vikan 10" bristles good results
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November 30, 2007, 10:31:27 pm »
i allways had the Vikan flat on the glass, as its not that a stiff brush it was fine BUT that was with a ali pole
now i use a fishing pole, it might be different
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Re: took out inner ring of vikan 10" bristles good results
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November 30, 2007, 10:43:35 pm »
sorry to sound thick but only wfp since april can you explain pros and cons of soft or hard brushes i have vikan 10" and vikan sill both ok for me but interested in knowing more
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jikwan
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Re: took out inner ring of vikan 10" bristles good results
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November 30, 2007, 11:17:06 pm »
with fishpoles you cant use a vikan theres no weight behind the brush
but angle the pole 60 degrees gets great 360 splay
at 90 deg horizontal gets ultimate splay but difficult up+down movement
like jeff said angle the brush right and the pole does all the work
and get maximum scrubbing power
see for yourself..........
put bristles of a brush angled at 45 degrees on the palm of your hand
move the brush forward feel all those hundreds of needles scratching at the skin
then put brush sqarely on palm and push to splay out bristles
move it like you want to wash the hand
just feel a tickling massaging nothing doing kind of feeling
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