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patwoods

help water based paint wood??
« on: November 01, 2007, 03:15:10 pm »
asked to tender for a building and no problems but then they tell me after i mention our wfp method that the wooden frames are water based painted ???does this make any difference to our pole work when we do the frames? had asmall experience recently afer some work with big sash windows that the kind of milky substance from the frames came off and made it a lot harder to finesh the windows in good time.Your help would be really appreciated ;)

Davew

Re: help water based paint wood??
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2007, 03:27:29 pm »
wouldn't have thought so - what happens when it rains?

patwoods

Re: help water based paint wood??
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2007, 03:46:12 pm »
Ta Davew,i thought the same but as you know we put a lot water in on the frames while only a small fraction of rain water gets in on window frames,but just want to do job and if have to go back over some but dont want to get stuck as there over 200 big windows :-[

mark dew

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Re: help water based paint wood??
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2007, 05:01:01 pm »
It's not really the wet that is the problem, it is the scrubbing that causes a couple of my jobs to have a milky substance coming down.
I used to clean the frames 1st then windows then rinse off the glass as a final thing.
I've never had any problem with the finish of the glass, although i was worried initially.
I don't even rinse off the glass now and they are always good.
I have 1/2 a dozen like this (all large old houses with big sash windows) and they all come up great. I've never noticed any milky residue left behind. Maybe someone else has a different experience, but i reckon you won't notice a difference with it.

patwoods

Re: help water based paint wood??
« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2007, 05:08:48 pm »
ta mark that gives confidence,i just thought when they said water based paint that some other window cleaner had problems before,as it is tender quote so you have to be careful.

Anyone else had same as mark??

steve m

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Re: help water based paint wood??
« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2007, 05:18:21 pm »
the only problem you might have is if the frames havent dried properly when you start washing, and the milky substance from the frames is from the oxidisation

mark dew

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Re: help water based paint wood??
« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2007, 05:30:07 pm »
ta mark that gives confidence,i just thought when they said water based paint that some other window cleaner had problems before,as it is tender quote so you have to be careful.

Anyone else had same as mark??

hiya, i've got to admit that i don't know if they were 'water-based' paint' but cleaning the top and sides of the frames would be like milking a cow.
And they leave white puddles on the ground below, which makes me worried if the owners see them.
But apart from the shock, i have had these accounts for 3 years, both trad and wfp  and they are good (happy) customers still.
I quite like these jobs because around here, these types of windows always belong to old vicarages, farm manor houses or halls etc and are usually large.
LIke i say, i haven't noticed any problems but in my short wc life i have only done a dozen or so different jobs with this kind of window so its only observation of a limited experience.
Maybe someone else has had different. I would take on any job for the experience alone but have not come across any that have left a noticable residue.

JohnL

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Re: help water based paint wood??
« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2007, 10:42:30 pm »
Once water based paint dries it is as hard as solvent ie oil based paint.

Over the next ten years all interior and exterior wood will have to be painted with water based paint - an environmental directive  :)   Oil based will be phased out.

Subsequently the answer is the water based paint should not give any problems.

JohnL
West Somerset. On the edge of the Quantocks and looking at The Exmoor National Park.

Re: help water based paint wood??
« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2007, 10:54:21 pm »
Once water based paint dries it is as hard as solvent ie oil based paint.

Over the next ten years all interior and exterior wood will have to be painted with water based paint - an environmental directive  :)   Oil based will be phased out.

Subsequently the answer is the water based paint should not give any problems.

JohnL
the answer is Upvc  ;D, get rid of wood frames