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Philip Hanson

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Fed Benefit : Free Subscription to C&M
« on: August 01, 2004, 04:13:27 pm »
On the NFMWGC's website, reason 13 of the "17 good reasons to join" is
"Free subscription to Cleaning & Maintenance journal"

http://www.nfmwgc.com/homepgs/benefits.htm

The publishers of this journal, Turret-Rai offer this journal Free to anyone.

Therefore, for the Federation to be stating this as a member benefit is, in my opinion, misleading.

Now, have I got this correct?  Is there something I'm missing here?  I cant understand why they'd say that.

-Philip
Editor, Professional Window Cleaner Magazine

"The irony of the information age is that it has given new respectability to uninformed opinion"
John Lawton

poleman

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Re: Fed Benefit : Free Subscription to C&M
« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2004, 08:19:12 pm »
well over the years have been get C&M however it has been a pain they dont like giving out the free Mag to Fed Members and have on many times had to kick off just to get my free C&M Mag, as it happen the last one did come thought this saturday and is a good read ;)

Andy

Philip Hanson

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Re: Fed Benefit : Free Subscription to C&M
« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2004, 05:29:23 pm »
A federation Committee member has confirmed that free subscription is available to anyone from the publishers, and NOT THROUGH THE FED.

Therefore this should be removed from the list of members benefits.

-Philip
Editor, Professional Window Cleaner Magazine

"The irony of the information age is that it has given new respectability to uninformed opinion"
John Lawton

telboy

Re: Fed Benefit : Free Subscription to C&M
« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2004, 06:49:44 pm »

Does it matter
  seems like nit-picking to me? ???






Philip Hanson

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Re: Fed Benefit : Free Subscription to C&M
« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2004, 02:12:47 am »
Hi Telboy

Well, perhaps to some it does not matter.  

But the fact that our trade federation is making false claims about it, makes me (and presumably prespctive members) wonder what else there is that is not true.

For example, reason 15 they give for joining is "Tender list inclusion".  Now if any members of the fed here have been given any details about this, I'd be glad to hear about it.  I havent been included on any tender lists.  Not only that, but I have since learned that this costs nothing to do on your own, you simply contact the procurement department of your local council.  This also is not a benefit exclusive to fed membership.

The problem is, the fed claim that as a benefit, as something you get for your membership fee.  That would be like us saying to customers : "If you get me to do your windows, you get free entry into the local park"

But of course anyone can go into the local park, regardless of wether or not they are your customer.  How long would it take for people to complain about that claim?

Not only that, but despite the fact it subscription to C&M is available to anyone, the fed dont even bother to subscribe to it in your behalf.  You have to do it yourself.

By claiming to have benefits that are not really there, it brings the whole perception of the federation down.  It makes it look like there really is no point being a member, so they have to make up reasons to join that arent true.

Now this is not the case at all, there are many good reasons to join the fed.  One I learned about the other day was a discount on some window cleaning software.  The makers of the software offer a £100 discount to fed members.  That really is a benefit, this would make the fed membership pay for itself instantly (Membership fee is only £58).  This should be included in that list, not things that arent true.

If someone complained to the Advertising Standards Authority, my expectation is that the Federation would be ordered to stop making these two claims, because they are simply misleading.

But I would hope they would just see common sense and remove them of their own accord.

-Philip
Editor, Professional Window Cleaner Magazine

"The irony of the information age is that it has given new respectability to uninformed opinion"
John Lawton

Philip Hanson

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Re: Fed Benefit : Free Subscription to C&M
« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2004, 10:43:28 pm »
Whether it is because of my complaint or not, I don't know, but it is interesting to note that the Federation have recently removed 'Subscription to C&M' as a member benefit.

Despite the fact that I personally raised the original issue by email to them, its a shame they have not bothered to tell me, or anyone else that my comment has been acted on.

-Philip
Editor, Professional Window Cleaner Magazine

"The irony of the information age is that it has given new respectability to uninformed opinion"
John Lawton

Terry_Burrows

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Re: Fed Benefit : Free Subscription to C&M
« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2004, 11:01:43 am »
 ;) anyone  has always been able to have the c.m mag,you never had to be a Fed member in the first place,and thats a fact, ;)
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simonb

Re: Fed Benefit : Free Subscription to C&M
« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2004, 02:50:41 pm »
'FED' UP ;D