[AuRavelling79]

Excuse me if this sounds a bit naive, but do any of you use a trolley system just for upper windows and still squeegee downstairs? This seems a way forward if you don't want to produce/carry/use too much water or is it all too much faffing about? Help please!

[simonb]

YUP esp Patio doors - makes water go further. Pole in 1 hand plus bucket on a belt.
I also have  a trad guy who helps me and he does all the patios and consevatories the old way and I pole upstairs.

[ztech]

would it save time if you wfp both top and bottom windows then using just your sqeege go over the downstairs ones

[Ian_Giles]

If you are going to use WFP then do the whole lot, I sure as hell don't bother with my applicator and squeegee unless I absolutely have to.
If you have to far to travel to come home to refill your water containers (for those with R/O systems) get yourself a cheap trailer and a tow hitch so you can at least take the water you need with you.

If you have cleaned the downstairs windows with WFP then why on earth would you need to go over them with a squeegee afterwards

And of course when you use your WFP on the downstairs the frames are done to a higher standard way quicker than you can accomplish with trad methods.
I can walk around a large conservatory and clean everything, frames included far quicker than I can with traditional methods.

Of course you are going to use more water when you do the downstairs too, but that is what the system is about, and once you are experienced with it, there is no way you will save time by squeegeeing the downstairs windows.
In fact I find it a relief not to have to wear my belt and all of its attachments all the time

[Duke]

absolutely...I don't even possess an applicator these days...everything get's poled...and unless your miles away from base...it's no hassle to nip back and get some more water...even just with an omnitrolley and water containers, I can still carry enough for my days work.....

[AuRavelling79]

I have noticed somewhere on the board that an average "semi" takes 15 litres of water (once its being regularly cleaned) so a trolley system plus 100 litres is only going to last for six/seven houses (£50/£60?) do I go home every 2 hrs for a top up or what? (Don't forget I'm talking residential with an estate car for transport)

I fully understand that wfp is best for easily accessible commercial work where you can access around the premesis with a van or a trailer with plenty of water for your pole.

MalcG

[Ian_Giles]

Malc,
I only have a Toyota Corolla, I can comfortably carry 150L of water, I have not (so far) needed to pop home for a refill more than once a day.
If you have an estate car, presumably you would be able to carry more, how much more would of course depend on the make and model of car.
I could at a pinch carry 200L, but to be honest I would be putting way to much weight over the rear suspension for that to be sensible.
My own system is a trolley one, but I have it set up in the back of the car like a mini van one, with 50m of hose I rarely need to use the trolley.
I pull up outside the house I am going to clean, reel out what I need of the hose and clean away
If I had several houses almost next door to one another then I would use the trolley, there are very few occasions when it would be quicker with a ladder & trad methods.
I am. for the first time in years, actively looking for more domestic accounts, purely as a result of going over to WFP.

I do admittedly now need to upgrade to a van & van mount system, but this is as a result of new work being taken on.

My plan for the new year is to wait until I have picked up £250 worth of new monthly work before I get myself a van. That 250 quid per month will pay for the upgrade

I know if I went out and actively canvassed I could pick up that much work in a couple of weeks, but I'm not after 3 bed semi's, I want bigger fish
Large georgians that I wouldn't touch with a bargepole pre WFP are the ones I now want
These are so easy with WFP :

Ian