[Clive McDonald]

http://www.cleantech.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=22_40&products_id=361
Does this mean I can operate two poles at the same time from one hose, one pump, one di?

[pjulk]

Yes

But its always better to have one pump per pole.


Paul

[Clive McDonald]

When I first ordered my stuff I asked this question, can you run two poles? and Mike at cleantech laughted and told me no it wasn't possible because the higher one would be starved by the lower one.
(ive got a cleantech pump box controlled by an ecoflow)
Now it looks like he's selling a gizmo that does just that. With the tap shouldn't you be able to adjust/balance the pressure?

Because my business has expanded so rapidly I struggle physicaly and need another body to help me. I have been looking at mounting an extra reel pump etc. Now for the sake of £14 I can work as a two man op can't I?

The worst I can do is try it (for the sake of £14).

[Clear Vision]

I wanted to run 2 poles of one pump but was advised not to.

Many would disagree with that.

Anyway I just decided to get another pump, varistream and battery.

If anything happens at least I have backup.

And if 2 of us are working we have "total" control

[Clive McDonald]

Clear vision.
Another pump varistream and battery, what about hose, did you get another hose as well?

As far as I can tell this splitter is new. At the very least I will have the option of having two poles connected at the same time.My van is only  a scudo so weight is an issue.If I go the route of duplicating everything i would also have to up my tank from 400 to 650.

It will give me extra options, including at least trying working with someone else, and if it is not ideal I have not lost a lot. Unless someone tries it we wont really know. I presume you would use the tap to limit the flow to the lower pole.

If anyone does see any down side, or have tried and failed please post.

[pylofm]

Perhaps and this is just a shot in the dark so to speak...when you have a very large property you could run a lenght of hose to the front and one to the back....

And on a first clean do all the back 1st clean then run round to front do the 1st clean, then back round to back to do cleans....instead of re-running hoses...like I say just a thought...

Dave.

[Clive McDonald]

I think that's what they do, when they have a two man van mount. You have two of everything.

For me this would mean another pump box £200, reel £180, di £80, battery £70, plus the additional weight.


or, what i'm asking is, would this £14 item do a similar job?

I can't beleive that more people aren't excited about this new development.

[Chris Cottrell]

I think that's what they do, when they have a two man van mount. You have two of everything.

For me this would mean another pump box £200, reel £180, di £80, battery £70, plus the additional weight.


or, what i'm asking is, would this £14 item do a similar job?

I can't beleive that more people aren't excited about this new development.

What you have to ask yourself is do you think £530 worth of gear will do the same as £14 worth (and I dont mean if you spend more money you get a better system b4 we go down the Ionics vs Diy route again) I meam to say that with 1 hose you will have flow consistancy issues , With 2 you will have total control for both flow rates

I have btw tried this and it didnt work well although some will say it works fine

I found that the water allways choose the easiest way out and that was allways the lowest pole, even if you have 2 30' poles working they are not allways at the exact same height 1 may be at the top of a window whilst the other is at the bottom of it

Chris 

[Clear Vision]

Clear vision.
Another pump varistream and battery, what about hose, did you get another hose as well?

Yes another reel with 100m of microbore.

Your prices you quoted are VERY high!!!!

I paid a lot less than your estimated £530.

I paid roughly £329 for everything!

At least I will have a whole set up to fall back on if anything goes wrong.

[steve m]

I tried it, and yes, the pole with the least resistance is the one that gets all the water. I took someone on and I did the upstairs while he did down( so he could see his mistakes while he was learning). As soon as he turned his pole on the water flow to my pole died. Haven't tried it with microbore, as at the time I had hozelok pro hose

[JM123]

we've been using a splitter for the trailer system for about 3 years, nothing new about it.

you can buy them as a hozelock or as a rectus type fitting (pictured above)

2 pumps off 1 pole is ok but not advisable

[Alex Gardiner]

Two poles off of one pump works fine if you split it before the hose reels not at the end of the hose reel. The splitter pictured would be of very limited value as it would need balancing by way of the valve every time someone turned their pole off. It would also restrict you to both working at the same place on the building which would be very time inefficient.

If you are using microbore I do not think that you would have a good enough flow rate to power two poles.

The cheapest way to do a workable split is to have a flojet 100psi pump with a hozelock or similar splitter feeding two hose reels of up to 100m of microbore, this will give you full flexibility of work and a good flow rate from each pole.

The cost for the above would be about £95 including splitter and connectors.

[JM123]

Thats a good point I forgot to mention, if you have the splitter after 1 reel of microbore you won't get a high enough flow rate.

If you decide to work off one pump then I'd recommend 2 reels of 8mm minibore and place the splitter before the hose reels obviously.

[Clive McDonald]

Took on board all thats been said.(didn't see Alex's post, i use something called minbore which I think is 8mm)

Was going to go the route of two of everything, but Mikes insists if the height difference is no more than about ten feet between poles then this will work.

So a splitter is on it's way along with a pump board that eventually will go in my other van.But as Clear vision says gives me a failsafe option in the event of mishaps.

The weight of two of everything is one thing, and so is the time of winding another reel in and out. So if the splitter does work I will be chuffed. I wish now i had asked him to send a lenght of tail with a male one end and a female the other so the two poles don't have to work too closely.

[Clive McDonald]

Alex and Jim have probably indentified the best solution, that would also involve only one DI.

So you're saying hoselock splitter after Di into two 8mm reels.

Thanks. We live and learn.

[Captain Scarlet]

Before i pass my test I'm working with my dad and what I am going to do is buy a backpack aswell, that way I can use the vanmount or dad and the other can use the backpack, I just dont want our customers seeing my dad trad downstairs and me wfp upstairs, with a backpack both are wfp and are working quicker, buying a 2 man system for 2 months of work wasn't worth it because it would have made me go over budget by quite a bit, you have to stop spending somewhere!!Luke