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mark_roberts

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Casual labour for flyer delivery
« on: June 01, 2007, 11:56:39 am »
I know a young lad looking some summer work so Im thinking flyer delivery.  Just spoke to accountant min wage for 18 year old is £4.45 per hour.  If I keep his weekly wage below £100 theres no national insurance to pay or as much paper work.

I want flyers into the nicer homes not housing estates.

So how would you pay him keeping him below £100 a week and how many flyers could he deliver in one hour bering in mind the areas I want delivered into.

thanks
Mark

john smith

  • Posts: 59
Re: Casual labour for flyer delivery
« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2007, 12:12:27 pm »
my leafleter has signed a self employed declaration which passes the buck back to him, so he is responsible for his own tax affairs i pay £40 per thousand

My leafleter is not allowed to deliver more than 2500 per week, i have broken it down to this system

 10am - 12 noon       and then 2pm - 4 pm monday to Thursday

 he will average 150 per hour, sometimes more, sometimes less, but overall 150 per hour is a fair shout in up market areas


Ian Gourlay

  • Posts: 5748
Re: Casual labour for flyer delivery
« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2007, 12:54:20 pm »
Sounds to me that he is not Self Employed as you are controlling his hours etc..




john smith

  • Posts: 59
Re: Casual labour for flyer delivery
« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2007, 01:01:50 pm »
then dont use my system if you think this is the case :-*

i am only expressing how i do it, it is up to any other individual to use there own "savvy" and due diligence when it comes to whats right or wrong.
 

Re: Casual labour for flyer delivery
« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2007, 05:39:03 pm »
am I right in thinking that is someone only works for one contractor they can not be classed as being self employed??

Mike Halliday

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Re: Casual labour for flyer delivery
« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2007, 05:48:29 pm »
yes, you're right, no matter what he signs he is still classed as an employee.

MIke
Mike Halliday.  www.henryhalliday.co.uk

Ian Rochester

  • Posts: 2588
Re: Casual labour for flyer delivery
« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2007, 06:27:36 am »
I use the bloke who delivers the charity bags, he has an 8 week cycle and I get him to deliver my leaflets twice a year.

He knows which houses are lived in, which are holiday homes, we basically go though his round and I tell him where to drop my leaflets off at.

Costs me £15.00 per thousand, invoiced, and he does 8000 a time.

brights cleaning

  • Posts: 156
Re: Casual labour for flyer delivery
« Reply #7 on: June 04, 2007, 08:58:02 am »
lion heart, do you get a good response, i still struggle to get any one who will actually deliver flyers and not dump most of them!

specialised

Re: Casual labour for flyer delivery
« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2007, 11:42:08 pm »
hi we are a leaflet distrabution company we deliver door to door for £29 per thousand and dont use kids your flyers would defo get delivered this is a sister company to my cleanin company and when we do our flyers we get a great responce were based in west lothian scotland if anyone up here is interested

robert

Ian Gourlay

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Re: Casual labour for flyer delivery
« Reply #9 on: June 07, 2007, 05:56:36 am »
Robert,

Bit puzzled as to why you want to distribute other cleaners leaflets.

Think you have a good idea regarding leaflet distribution, but I would only distribute non competing trades leaflets such as takeaways

ianharper

Re: Casual labour for flyer delivery
« Reply #10 on: June 07, 2007, 08:15:25 am »
guys

i have had dhss check my contacts out and they have had no problems with them when any of my staff are signing and do the little bit of work they can. as long as you provide work returns and keep records it no problem.

even if they are no signing they still can work on these type of contacts i did for year as a car valeter. most dealers employ contractors to clean their cars and these contractors then take on self employed people. the idea is that they don't work at one place. this works really well for all, as the cont actor can move staff around as he like with no problems from the dealer or the self employed cleaner.

you are right when you say about working in one place they "should"n be employed, but we all know that it goes on.

as long as you get a contact filled out stating that they will pay their own NI and Tax and you have records it not a problem.

the government likes this type of employment as it get people out working and earning and with time they hope of the dole. I clean for a business that has all its staff on these contacts. and they had a visit from the dhss and the tax. they checked out the staff addresses and that was it, no problems.

as business people this will be the only way to expand your business without all the strings that come with employing people. you cant guarantee work each week, and as long as they provide van equipment etc you should have no problems.

with regards leaflets, just look at it you are paying a company to deliver, you get an invoice and you pay it. it would make sense that the person delivering got other non cleaning leaflets to drop at same time this would increase the money earned. just make sure your is the biggest so that any other leaflets go inside yours, that's why A3 flyers are so good.

Respect

Ian Harper

stevegunn

Re: Casual labour for flyer delivery
« Reply #11 on: June 07, 2007, 08:26:32 am »
I also use a guy who delivers the charity bags with excellent response he gives me a list of the areas they are delivered in so I can go and check if I want,but the phone calls I receive tell me they are getting delivered.