[ianharper]

guys

what are the benefits of 3 stage dual over 2 stage dual? is it just lift? and if so is the difference between the two worth worrying about?

I have noticed that you can get a dual 2 stage with only one power cord and if it 3 stage it two? having had problems with my machine with tripping customers electric.

I am interested in a 200 psi machine that as a 2 stage runs on one cord (no heater)

Respect

Ian Harper

[Glynn]

A three stage simply has an extra vac fan in the housing so it flows more air.

[Steve Dudley]

It will give you more vac power.

[jbcleaning]

2 x 3-stage vacs (1200 watt) will easily run off 1 plug with a 200 psi pump and no heater.

[matt jones]

This is exactly what my machine is and does.

[Macarthur]

My old Truvox President met these specifications although only 100 Psi, not that I would recommend though, much prefer my Rhino 3x3 stage 200 Psi, far more powerful, very rarely trip any customers switches with this machine.
Nigel.

[Terry_Burrows]

 ;Dwe thought of getting Rino,do think better than,our 135 ninja

[*paul_moss]

Ian
You should not be having so many problems with tripping fuses with that machine.
I think thre is a short in the machine somewere causing the problem.
I once has a single vac 135 psi machine with a inline heater.The machine had one plug on t that conrolled all 3. It ws a grat little machine I just used for Upholstery with no poblems at all.The one day it started to trip fuses,sometimes as soon as I put the machine on and other times after it had ben running for an hour.
I thought at first it was the customers electirc or they had sensitive trip switches in the houses.But after getting totally hacked off with it doing it one day I decided it was the mahine and look for the fault.
After a process of elimination I found out it was the vac motor.I replaced the motor and it was fine,never had a prolem off it again.
I have also had a similar prob in the past with a larger porty and on that occasion it was he inlin heater that was tripping the electric,after it was replaced it stopped tripping.
Any short in your system will cause this, sometimes just a cracked cable wire on the plug run will cause a short.

[homenclean]

Probably earth leakage have the machine serviced and ask them to test it. could be something a small as damp connections.

john

[Steve Chapman]

Most portys should be plugged through your own circuit breaker unit before the custys socket, this way it doesn't trip there electric and if your switch goes you know it something wrong with the machine, also it cuts out before any real damage to electrics on machine!

It's a much safer way to operate and saves embarrassment when there tv or pc goes of

regards
steve

[Kinver_Clean]

I find that if I switch on all motors and pump at the same time it will take out the circuit breakers on some boards, it depends on the type of trip. If each motor is switched on singly then it is OK.

Motors have a problem with loads of carbon from the brushes causing a partial short to earth. A good blow out with compressed air will cure it when the brushes are changed.

trevor

[paul wright]

ian  machine must hav fault as it shoudnt trip out   ,  3200 watts max on each socket,  whats the power draw on each of your leads?   cant be nowere near this if it anit got a built in heater
p.s see u just sold it to someone  :

[Graeme@Access]

Hi,

I thought blowing fuses was a sign of a failing vac motor, it could be the brush set on one of the motors is worn and arcing alot. You could try opening the machine up and if theres fireworks on the one motor, replacement brushes/motor should fix it.

Kinvers idea is a good one also and even easier to fix.

One other thing it could be is the pressure switch on the pump (if its a pump on demand type).  The one on our prochem melted this week due to arcing and overheating.

Both probs are easy fixed.

Goodluck

Graeme
Access Cleaning Solutions

[Ken Wainwright]

In case some of you aren't aware, Trevor (Kinver Clean) is an independant  service engineer who has been used by quite a few of our major suppliers over the years. His tip about the airline is one that he has used on my machines on several occasions to great effect. In fact, he does it everytime he has serviced my machines too.

Graeme's tale about the pressure switch on demand pumps is a problem I have encountered too. It would appear to me that these are less common now, having been superceded on many machines by using by-pass pumps.

Safe and happy cleaning
Ken

[Ian Gourlay]

Trevor,

if you are looking

A few months back on Cleantalk I asked you about changing brushes

At the time you said you were going to take some pictures etc for step by step guide.

as far as I am aware it did not apear.
Did you decide it was too dodgy for us non technical folk.