[jay moley]

How old is he

21

[dazmond]

Anyone left the trade and gone on to do something else and be happy?

I'm so fed up with the actual work. Just brain dead aint it.

I'm not close to getting off the tools. Could potentially get someone to cover the work and get another job.

Big doubt is whether I could ever work for an employer after being my own boss.

Anyone left and happy? Anyone left and not, or come back to window cleaning?

Do you work on your own or have staff?

Are you working long hours?

How's your sleep?

How's your diet and exercise routine?

Do you smoke?

Do you drink excessively?

How's your mental health?

I work with one lad. Hate it on my own.

No more than 8 hours a day usually 6.5.

I sleep fine.

Don't drink at all or touch drugs. No smoking.

Mental health very poor as I have bipolar.

I think the only thing I could so is start another business.

It's more likely your bi polar causing you problems than the actual job that needs changing....

If you start a new business you ll still take your bi polar with you....

I guess you take medication?

All the best whatever you decide to do but from my experience with bi polar(I had a girlfriend who suffered with it many years ago)try to not make any rash decisions and keep on top of your medication.

[dazmond]

Also cognitive behavioural therapy helped her out a lot if you ve not tried it before...

[G Griffin]

Good posts, Daz 👍.

[jay moley]

Anyone left the trade and gone on to do something else and be happy?

I'm so fed up with the actual work. Just brain dead aint it.

I'm not close to getting off the tools. Could potentially get someone to cover the work and get another job.

Big doubt is whether I could ever work for an employer after being my own boss.

Anyone left and happy? Anyone left and not, or come back to window cleaning?

Do you work on your own or have staff?

Are you working long hours?

How's your sleep?

How's your diet and exercise routine?

Do you smoke?

Do you drink excessively?

How's your mental health?

I work with one lad. Hate it on my own.

No more than 8 hours a day usually 6.5.

I sleep fine.

Don't drink at all or touch drugs. No smoking.

Mental health very poor as I have bipolar.

I think the only thing I could so is start another business.

It's more likely your bi polar causing you problems than the actual job that needs changing....

If you start a new business you ll still take your bi polar with you....

I guess you take medication?

All the best whatever you decide to do but from my experience with bi polar(I had a girlfriend who suffered with it many years ago)try to not make any rash decisions and keep on top of your medication.

Agree that it will be there whatever job I do. Its a constant battle and so unpredictable. One day I feel great the next I'm thinking about hanging myself.

I take 5 different types of medication. Its pretty bad, I've been in mental hospitals four times.

[G Griffin]

Best wishes with it all, Jay.
Keep posting, mate. It's not the same but there are more than a few sympathetic ears on here.

[NBwcs]

Yes,take care Jay, thank God times have moved on and people like yourself are comfortable enough to speak about it. Mental health problems in the 70s and 80s meant suffering in silence for alot of people. As Grif says, you'll get alot of empathy on here based on previous threads when some of the boys have been struggling, your not on your own.

[jay moley]

Thanks chaps.

[DJW]

Trouble with window cleaning is it’s so simple, so repetitive with very little job satisfaction. Suits some people but drives others nuts. The first year can be exciting, after that it’s just a job. Contact with customers helps as does socialising outside of the job. ( not necessarily down the pub!).

[deeege]

Funny thing is job satisfaction. There’s very few jobs that would actually give real satisfaction imo. Personally I’m happy knuckling down for 6-7 hours a day cleaning windows then get my satisfaction elsewhere.

Can honestly say, out of my wide circle of friends, I wouldn’t swap my ‘job’ with a single one of them.

[dazmond]

Funny thing is job satisfaction. There’s very few jobs that would actually give real satisfaction imo. Personally I’m happy knuckling down for 6-7 hours a day cleaning windows then get my satisfaction elsewhere.

Can honestly say, out of my wide circle of friends, I wouldn’t swap my ‘job’ with a single one of them.

The grief and hassle my missus gets in her business is unbelievable.....her phones constantly ringing/messages/emails,etc even on holiday and she relies on lots of other people to make everything run smoothly

I love the straightforward nature of window cleaning and it's virtually stress free....NEVER underestimate this!

[Stoots]

Anyone left the trade and gone on to do something else and be happy?

I'm so fed up with the actual work. Just brain dead aint it.

I'm not close to getting off the tools. Could potentially get someone to cover the work and get another job.

Big doubt is whether I could ever work for an employer after being my own boss.

Anyone left and happy? Anyone left and not, or come back to window cleaning?

Do you work on your own or have staff?

Are you working long hours?

How's your sleep?

How's your diet and exercise routine?

Do you smoke?

Do you drink excessively?

How's your mental health?

I work with one lad. Hate it on my own.

No more than 8 hours a day usually 6.5.

I sleep fine.

Don't drink at all or touch drugs. No smoking.

Mental health very poor as I have bipolar.

I think the only thing I could so is start another business.

It's more likely your bi polar causing you problems than the actual job that needs changing....

If you start a new business you ll still take your bi polar with you....

I guess you take medication?

All the best whatever you decide to do but from my experience with bi polar(I had a girlfriend who suffered with it many years ago)try to not make any rash decisions and keep on top of your medication.

Agree that it will be there whatever job I do. Its a constant battle and so unpredictable. One day I feel great the next I'm thinking about hanging myself.

I take 5 different types of medication. Its pretty bad, I've been in mental hospitals four times.

I dunno if i have bipolar, never sought a diagnosis but i can relate to feeling great one day then next day feeling like giving up on life.  Up and down and rarely in the middle, one minute want to conquer the world next minute to curl in a ball.

Not sure if the job is the issue although im sure it will feel like it is as its the easy thing to point to but i know ive felt just the same most of my adult life no matter what i was doing.

Diet and exercise helps as does being outdoors. I go fishing most weekends in my spare time and i find just being calm and watching the water gives me some escape. I also go cycling a lot and recently joined the gym , one thing ive learned is its hard to feel depressed when exercising as the mind is focused purely on the task. Of course once you get home and into the rat race you slide back into the cycle of depression.

I dont have an answer but i hope you find one.