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jo5hm4n

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FAO Alex Gardiner
« on: June 06, 2021, 11:34:32 am »
Hi Alex,

I just wondered if you could possibly explain the new gooseneck design, the need for it or difference between the old and the new.

I am only asking as i also use Tubeless setup with a Univalve on all of our poles, and would like to keep it that way.  I have yet to order the new gooseneck so i am not familiar with it but as you often make such good videos or posts explaining your products i thought i would ask.

Thank you.

Ched

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Re: FAO Alex Gardiner
« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2021, 12:50:13 pm »
Have a read of http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=220990.0
I believe that some people were fitting univalves and not putting a clamp above the gooseneck and pulling the pole hose so hard that they were braking jets. So new gooseneck solves that problem but does make hoseless much more difficult.
You can still buy the original goosenecks as a spare part!

Alex Gardiner

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Re: FAO Alex Gardiner
« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2021, 01:09:33 pm »
Hi Alex,

I just wondered if you could possibly explain the new gooseneck design, the need for it or difference between the old and the new.

I am only asking as i also use Tubeless setup with a Univalve on all of our poles, and would like to keep it that way.  I have yet to order the new gooseneck so i am not familiar with it but as you often make such good videos or posts explaining your products i thought i would ask.

Thank you.

Hi jo5hm4n

The main difference is that the new gooseneck design now isolates what is happening with the pole hose and inside the pole from the brush head and the jets. There are many brush head setups that benefit from this isolation and prevent the pole hose weight and any pulling action (either by standing on the hose or actuating a valve) from affecting the brush head setup.

The redesign has also allowed me to construct the connecting shaft in such a way that even with material variations and expansion in heat/cold it will remain easy to fit and remove even after many years in place.

It should still be possible to use a 'hoseless' setup and even a 'hoseless' and univalve setup if required, although the exact fitment method may need to change. I had a friend text me last night after reading my other post showing photos of how he has setup his pole with the new gooseneck, univalve and 'hoseless' method - he reckons it is even simpler to do and he much prefers the redesign.

Someone has also pointed out that Univalve themselves have released a quick release adaption which, I imagine, is to allow it to very quickly be fitted to this new gooseneck design.

There is also another benefit to the new design - that is that the gooseneck/hose assembly is a single connected assembly, so when changing/removing goosenecks the length of hose and connector cannot slide out and fall to the ground.

jo5hm4n

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Re: FAO Alex Gardiner
« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2021, 07:21:20 pm »
Thanks for your detailed explanation i really appreciate it.  I think i will order the new Goosenecks and play around with it on our existing setup as it sounds like the new goosenecks have several benefits.  I actually personally had some problems with the "old" design of goosenecks.  I used to find that if you didnt remove a gooseneck say more than once a month, eventually it would get stuck in the pole and it was so tight it was so difficult to pull the gooseneck out.  I got around this issue by filing/sanding down the goosenecks when they arrived new so that they would slide in and out of the top of the pole section much easier, and that if they were not changed or removed often, they would never ever get stuck, they would always come out very easily if required.

I will order the new gooseneck and play around with it, maybe it eliminates that problem that i had with the older goosenecks.

I am sure i will be able to get the hoseless univalve setup working one way or another with the new goosenecks.

Thanks again for replying  :D