[Slash]

I just bought one of these,CHRIST, they are heavy,nothing like my old Gardiner Super Max 50.
Why do manufacturers make poles so heavy when it gets to a stage its unmanageable, anyway I'll take £700.00  only used once for 10 minutes.

[Smudger]

I just bought one of these,CHRIST, they are heavy,nothing like my old Gardiner Super Max 50.
Why do manufacturers make poles so heavy when it gets to a stage its unmanageable, anyway I'll take £700.00  only used once for 10 minutes.

 

That's the way to sell it.....

Darran

[Slash]

Yeah maybe,will sit in the garage now unless Popeye  wants  it 

[NWH]

It’s the same with brushes m8 this is the thing you see something and think I’ll give it a go and within seconds of it coming out of the packaging you know you’ve made a mistake.

[dazmond]

I just bought one of these,CHRIST, they are heavy,nothing like my old Gardiner Super Max 50.
Why do manufacturers make poles so heavy when it gets to a stage its unmanageable, anyway I'll take £700.00  only used once for 10 minutes.

why didnt you just buy another gardiner pole?

[deeege]

I just bought one of these,CHRIST, they are heavy,nothing like my old Gardiner Super Max 50.
Why do manufacturers make poles so heavy when it gets to a stage its unmanageable, anyway I'll take £700.00  only used once for 10 minutes.

why didnt you just buy another gardiner pole?

Because they are 3 times the price may have something to do with it 

[Phil J]

Would you go with the supermax 50 or the extreme 47 ( going to be used by staff) and is there a massive difference in rigidity?
Thanks in advance, Phil.

[dazmond]

Would you go with the supermax 50 or the extreme 47 ( going to be used by staff) and is there a massive difference in rigidity?
Thanks in advance, Phil.

yes there is a massive difference in weight and rigidity esp when used to clean large skylights or solar panels on roofs.....the bend on the supermax is too much making it very difficult to clean some glass/panels without catching on the gutters

[the king]

I have the phamton 18 big mistake gardners much better sections don't slide as well and clamps are stiff and hurt hands after long day

[Phil J]

Thanks for the info Daz, is the extreme as fragile as everyone says and is it a faff maintaining them? Thanks, Phil

[Alex Gardiner]

Thanks for the info Daz, is the extreme as fragile as everyone says and is it a faff maintaining them? Thanks, Phil

Hi Phil J - I have also commented on the Xtreme poles on another thread you have been posting on 

The Xtreme poles do need extra care - however the range is divided really between the high level Xtreme47 and the smaller domestic Xtreme poles.

In reality due to the very different forces and wear levels in high level poles the Xtreme47 will actually last a long time if only used on high level work. Some of our customers have Xtreme47 poles that are 8 years old and have never needed any replacement sections and only minimum maintenance.

The sections tend to be extended fully and used for a good length of time in this position. Unlike a domestic pole which will be opened and closed many hundreds of times a day leading to abrasive wear.

Also when working at height it is very difficult to put excess force on the smaller sections as they are 4 or 5 storeys up - whereas on a domestic pole on first floor work it is possible to overload the sections.

If your employees are very rough then a Super-Max will resist abuse better - however the Xtreme47 will lead to much faster working at height and happier employees.

[AuRavelling79]

Thanks for the info Daz, is the extreme as fragile as everyone says and is it a faff maintaining them? Thanks, Phil

Hi Phil J - I have also commented on the Xtreme poles on another thread you have been posting on 

The Xtreme poles do need extra care - however the range is divided really between the high level Xtreme47 and the smaller domestic Xtreme poles.

In reality due to the very different forces and wear levels in high level poles the Xtreme47 will actually last a long time if only used on high level work. Some of our customers have Xtreme47 poles that are 8 years old and have never needed any replacement sections and only minimum maintenance.

The sections tend to be extended fully and used for a good length of time in this position. Unlike a domestic pole which will be opened and closed many hundreds of times a day leading to abrasive wear.

Also when working at height it is very difficult to put excess force on the smaller sections as they are 4 or 5 storeys up - whereas on a domestic pole on first floor work it is possible to overload the sections.

If your employees are very rough then a Super-Max will resist abuse better - however the Xtreme47 will lead to much faster working at height and happier employees.

My xtreme 47 is a stepped one coming up ten years old. About two years ago the top two sections finally went and I replaced them with worn ones when I replaced my extreme domestic pole.

Sections 4 to infinity are the original stepped ones.

Every time I buy a new every day domestic extreme (every 2/3 years) the top three sections of the old one go into my extreme 47.

If one of them is broken again (always one of the top two) I just shorten it so technically my 47 is sometimes reduced to a 45 or 46. 🤣

[Slash]

I just bought one of these,CHRIST, they are heavy,nothing like my old Gardiner Super Max 50.
Why do manufacturers make poles so heavy when it gets to a stage its unmanageable, anyway I'll take £700.00  only used once for 10 minutes.

why didnt you just buy another gardiner pole?

I should have  but like everything I thought it would be as fantastic as youtubers made them out to be,perhaps a shorter  Phantom  would of been better but as I have alot of high work I would try them.
Not for me at that height and I like to think I'm Matcho Man but I'm obviously not.
It's actually a 58 pole as it says on bottom section. 

[Smudger]

Never trust you tube - these people have either no real experience or biased in their opinion and use depending what they are getting from the company in question

Darran

[֍Winp®oClean֍]

I have one of the very first Xtreme47's that were produced (replaced a short lived 48 version if I recall correctly). It's only ever been used for work above 35ft, my daily pole is a slx25 with one extension.
The Xtreme 47 is still going strong and has been in use all this time, never broke a section or replaced a worn one either.

[Stephen Fox]

I have the phamton 18 big mistake gardners much better sections don't slide as well and clamps are stiff and hurt hands after long day

Hi King,

When did you get the Phantom 18?. This is definitely not the norm. Haven’t had any reports of stiff sections so am concerned if this is recent purchase

[Ggh]

Thanks for the info Daz, is the extreme as fragile as everyone says and is it a faff maintaining them? Thanks, Phil

Hi Phil J - I have also commented on the Xtreme poles on another thread you have been posting on 

The Xtreme poles do need extra care - however the range is divided really between the high level Xtreme47 and the smaller domestic Xtreme poles.

In reality due to the very different forces and wear levels in high level poles the Xtreme47 will actually last a long time if only used on high level work. Some of our customers have Xtreme47 poles that are 8 years old and have never needed any replacement sections and only minimum maintenance.

The sections tend to be extended fully and used for a good length of time in this position. Unlike a domestic pole which will be opened and closed many hundreds of times a day leading to abrasive wear.

Also when working at height it is very difficult to put excess force on the smaller sections as they are 4 or 5 storeys up - whereas on a domestic pole on first floor work it is possible to overload the sections.

If your employees are very rough then a Super-Max will resist abuse better - however the Xtreme47 will lead to much faster working at height and happier employees.

What are the extremes like used horizontally?  We use the smax 50 atm but find we have to be careful not to extend the sections all the way, to avoid sagging in the middle. Good poles though, we’ve abused them and they’ve earned a lot of money.

[Bin Juice]

 i purchased a phantom 18 from WCW about 2 weeks ago and the sections are stiff ,  it feels like they need rubbing down in parts

[Stephen Fox]

i purchased a phantom 18 from WCW about 2 weeks ago and the sections are stiff ,  it feels like they need rubbing down in parts

Can you send a quick video via email or our WhatsApp (number on website) and we can have a look