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Spruce

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Re: leisure batteries
« Reply #20 on: December 03, 2020, 02:32:20 pm »
Banner energy bull, not the cheapest, but come out on top in most serious reviews.

I cannot fault mine, 3 years old and still holds charge. Powers electric reel and pump all day with no problem.

They are well over £100 though, but you pay for what you get... it will last, so saves you money in the long run.

Link to battery - https://www.alpha-batteries.co.uk/12v-banner-135ah-energy-bull-leisure-battery-95901?gclid=Cj0KCQiAk53-BRD0ARIsAJuNhptQfDTcz7wo0esudsWmv4qVu97Zoio2RhmfC9hyNLwZhqWareguiWIaAkYkEALw_wcB

One of the local motor factors used to sell Banner. They don't any more because of the number of come-backs.
Yet one of the local windies swears by them. He uses starter batteries.

You really don't know if the guy on the counter is using that as the best customer interest excuse, if Banner stopped selling to them due to a payment issue or if there was a discount disagreement. Did they get a better deal from another battery supplier?
Who knows the real reason. Have Banner given themselves the title of Mercedes Benz of the battery market?

Our closest motor factors used to order Numax batteries when we wanted them. He said he didn't deal with Numax now as they stopped his discount. His biggest supplier recently sold out to Napa. This means that most of his stock is now of Napa origin. He wanted to sell me a Napa leisure battery. I declined.
Success is 1% inspiration, 98% perspiration and 2% attention to detail!

The older I get, the better I was ;)

Ched

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Re: leisure batteries
« Reply #21 on: December 03, 2020, 02:35:04 pm »
A very rough guide to how good a battery will be is the weight. The lead is probably the most expensive part of the battery. So cheap ones skimp on it.
Don't forget to take old battery to scrap merchant as they will probably give you £10 to £15 per battery.

Spruce

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Re: leisure batteries
« Reply #22 on: December 03, 2020, 02:36:31 pm »
1 battery isn’t enough for a heater
He didn't ask about that, Mr. Doom and Gloom.
But while we're on the subject, I always get an heater Harris battery.

 
I bet your upset they’ve found a vaccine aren’t you 🤣🤣 what will we have to moan about now
Cold water?
I mean, moaning about a virus that has killed nearly a million and a half people and been so damaging economically isn't the same as moaning about people cleaning with cold water, is it?
The OP didn't even ask about a battery for a heater but here we are talking about batteries for heaters ::)roll.

;D ;D
I had to go back and check the first post.

I would be sure that most makes of batteries would probably power a pump all day and last a long time if it was kept as close to fully charged as possible.
The O/P mentioned an electric hose reel. That changes things and IMHO probably beats diesel heaters for high demand power requirements.
Success is 1% inspiration, 98% perspiration and 2% attention to detail!

The older I get, the better I was ;)

zesty

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Re: leisure batteries
« Reply #23 on: December 03, 2020, 04:04:39 pm »
A very rough guide to how good a battery will be is the weight. The lead is probably the most expensive part of the battery. So cheap ones skimp on it.
Don't forget to take old battery to scrap merchant as they will probably give you £10 to £15 per battery.

My banner weighs a lot! Like, a lot!

It’s also been brilliant at holding charge

Spruce

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Re: leisure batteries
« Reply #24 on: December 03, 2020, 04:23:37 pm »
A very rough guide to how good a battery will be is the weight. The lead is probably the most expensive part of the battery. So cheap ones skimp on it.
Don't forget to take old battery to scrap merchant as they will probably give you £10 to £15 per battery.

Good idea. I would have taken them to the tip but can't use the van to do it. The scrap yard is opposite the motor factors I use so I can use the van. 
Success is 1% inspiration, 98% perspiration and 2% attention to detail!

The older I get, the better I was ;)

zesty

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Re: leisure batteries
« Reply #25 on: December 03, 2020, 04:37:38 pm »
Banner energy bull, not the cheapest, but come out on top in most serious reviews.

I cannot fault mine, 3 years old and still holds charge. Powers electric reel and pump all day with no problem.

They are well over £100 though, but you pay for what you get... it will last, so saves you money in the long run.

Link to battery - https://www.alpha-batteries.co.uk/12v-banner-135ah-energy-bull-leisure-battery-95901?gclid=Cj0KCQiAk53-BRD0ARIsAJuNhptQfDTcz7wo0esudsWmv4qVu97Zoio2RhmfC9hyNLwZhqWareguiWIaAkYkEALw_wcB

One of the local motor factors used to sell Banner. They don't any more because of the number of come-backs.
Yet one of the local windies swears by them. He uses starter batteries.

You really don't know if the guy on the counter is using that as the best customer interest excuse, if Banner stopped selling to them due to a payment issue or if there was a discount disagreement. Did they get a better deal from another battery supplier?
Who knows the real reason. Have Banner given themselves the title of Mercedes Benz of the battery market?

Our closest motor factors used to order Numax batteries when we wanted them. He said he didn't deal with Numax now as they stopped his discount. His biggest supplier recently sold out to Napa. This means that most of his stock is now of Napa origin. He wanted to sell me a Napa leisure battery. I declined.

Interesting spruce, a quick google search brings very good reviews up for banner. I’m certainly sticking with them for the foreseeable.

I’ve had a few brands over the years, but have been so impressed by the energy bull that I don’t think I’d ever bother with another brand  now.

Simon Trapani

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Re: leisure batteries
« Reply #26 on: December 03, 2020, 04:42:06 pm »
I'm restricted to by the physical dimensions of my Pure Freedom battery tray :( Looks neat though :)

Amazin

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Re: leisure batteries
« Reply #27 on: December 03, 2020, 06:00:54 pm »
Quote
The OP didn't even ask about a battery for a heater but here we are talking about batteries for heaters ::)roll.

If it's a diesel heater then it doesn't need to use a battery right? I was thinking just get an energy efficient heater, put it in the van when I wake up and use an extension lead.

Tbh I'm trying to kill two birds with one stone here, I was originally thinking of powering the transfer pump to speed fill my back pack then I remembered the power reel.

Is this any good to us?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/166Wh-Portable-Power-Generator-Power-Station-Supply-Solar-Panel-Energy-Charger/223160184013?_trkparms=ispr%3D1&hash=item33f5622ccd:g:e~gAAOSwomJeIXgX&amdata=enc%3AAQAFAAACcBaobrjLl8XobRIiIML1V4Imu%252Fn%252BzU5L90Z278x5ickkgCVySCgrNFPU8Iu85TabMMAcQuFYCteZjEbRVYVX%252BCvVg4qeAkLYsb2jZHow508NOgDEMb0xwRZY4s1%252BKD3ySEStN%252F2mQDJDb8xzWfSz8Ry%252Fjs0lmHUn%252FcMIBqZLRLqk5sxzbPbLLj174r9o9Sc2pa1oCyTIJoyAC7kHH%252B5alvbK6%252BfplNjcw7KNqWQnt8vfxtVoj3YcsygJ28VHr4qg1MJ%252B8YOunC2%252F%252FER22aYeQKHQpLt%252FOr5uUl16Q79KUnFy4NeeU4ROxQ8%252F81ks78OXkiQrKxiquQjkX2IF0su0nz6680fLQEMTLXZoQbHgLYRF9RHeXA%252FIIUN8a3by5wmkuaOaoOKTQjK7JzykIjMAWTsfnh0HsQ9b3chEOOr1ytVEFlsNZHgsnLB%252Bi4ffq9%252FdoM8asmA5hTyglUK7%252FztZDwL0xi1j0fBd4MpI%252BqKPkwnIKDgtZMKLOtyCChmYWU%252FDRlA7fliwycfburCd3sMVfdsyZ97BvgkZHXKuyw%252BPmmC5IbK%252BbEnfy4m7s0kY4XvoVHzPv1FSAoFrrVAvYzUgYMfFNYajF4ZblwwfZnOaL3i67aLkKX%252FedKI%252FL8pSGTQjsc8BOLyNMTycNVj1VZSaEGv%252FtCETAhyHvtLYQFwM5E6ryh9gt1%252FcTzbfELi3cd0uvWKndP1XvZ9LG8y0DvJxo0JlPlFQ%252Fr0fjhX3og69JGvE194yWS9nVvLdCkr3OrRBL7M9DSfO5u9G9FELF5ltglVkYHMJYkUTgW2zZPtllGVjCHfTdm%252BAPRsGY7HshKeX9Q%253D%253D%7Ccksum%3A223160184013f3ca430d2227429a8a9b7d6febcb2094%7Campid%3APL_CLK%7Cclp%3A2334524



Spruce

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Re: leisure batteries
« Reply #28 on: December 03, 2020, 06:56:57 pm »
Quote
The OP didn't even ask about a battery for a heater but here we are talking about batteries for heaters ::)roll.

If it's a diesel heater then it doesn't need to use a battery right? I was thinking just get an energy efficient heater, put it in the van when I wake up and use an extension lead.

Tbh I'm trying to kill two birds with one stone here, I was originally thinking of powering the transfer pump to speed fill my back pack then I remembered the power reel.

Is this any good to us?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/166Wh-Portable-Power-Generator-Power-Station-Supply-Solar-Panel-Energy-Charger/223160184013?_trkparms=ispr%3D1&hash=item33f5622ccd:g:e~gAAOSwomJeIXgX&amdata=enc%3AAQAFAAACcBaobrjLl8XobRIiIML1V4Imu%252Fn%252BzU5L90Z278x5ickkgCVySCgrNFPU8Iu85TabMMAcQuFYCteZjEbRVYVX%252BCvVg4qeAkLYsb2jZHow508NOgDEMb0xwRZY4s1%252BKD3ySEStN%252F2mQDJDb8xzWfSz8Ry%252Fjs0lmHUn%252FcMIBqZLRLqk5sxzbPbLLj174r9o9Sc2pa1oCyTIJoyAC7kHH%252B5alvbK6%252BfplNjcw7KNqWQnt8vfxtVoj3YcsygJ28VHr4qg1MJ%252B8YOunC2%252F%252FER22aYeQKHQpLt%252FOr5uUl16Q79KUnFy4NeeU4ROxQ8%252F81ks78OXkiQrKxiquQjkX2IF0su0nz6680fLQEMTLXZoQbHgLYRF9RHeXA%252FIIUN8a3by5wmkuaOaoOKTQjK7JzykIjMAWTsfnh0HsQ9b3chEOOr1ytVEFlsNZHgsnLB%252Bi4ffq9%252FdoM8asmA5hTyglUK7%252FztZDwL0xi1j0fBd4MpI%252BqKPkwnIKDgtZMKLOtyCChmYWU%252FDRlA7fliwycfburCd3sMVfdsyZ97BvgkZHXKuyw%252BPmmC5IbK%252BbEnfy4m7s0kY4XvoVHzPv1FSAoFrrVAvYzUgYMfFNYajF4ZblwwfZnOaL3i67aLkKX%252FedKI%252FL8pSGTQjsc8BOLyNMTycNVj1VZSaEGv%252FtCETAhyHvtLYQFwM5E6ryh9gt1%252FcTzbfELi3cd0uvWKndP1XvZ9LG8y0DvJxo0JlPlFQ%252Fr0fjhX3og69JGvE194yWS9nVvLdCkr3OrRBL7M9DSfO5u9G9FELF5ltglVkYHMJYkUTgW2zZPtllGVjCHfTdm%252BAPRsGY7HshKeX9Q%253D%253D%7Ccksum%3A223160184013f3ca430d2227429a8a9b7d6febcb2094%7Campid%3APL_CLK%7Cclp%3A2334524

You obviously don't read all the diesel heater posts.
A Webasto Thermo 90 Pro uses battery to start them up - around 16amp. Under full burn they use 6 to 7 amps. Under reduced heat mode at the top end of the heating cycle they use 3 to 4 amps and when they shut down/switch off they use 11 to 12 amps.
So diesel heaters are very power hungry.

At full load you will have 1 or 2 pumps using 4 to 5 amps each. So in total 12 to 18 amps with 2 pumps running. That's probably more than running an electric reel after each clean.
Success is 1% inspiration, 98% perspiration and 2% attention to detail!

The older I get, the better I was ;)

AuRavelling79

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Re: leisure batteries
« Reply #29 on: December 04, 2020, 11:01:35 pm »
Trojan. Deep cycle.
It's a game of three halves!