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G Griffin

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Re: People who employ
« Reply #20 on: March 25, 2020, 12:10:15 pm »
Enforced holidays for two weeks (probably three now).

So you're using up their holiday for them, so you benefit.

That's nice of you.
Soupy's hardly benefitting from this, is he?

No he isn't. And it's difficult to know what to do.
It is but I think we'll hear something soon.
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jay moley

  • Posts: 479
Re: People who employ
« Reply #21 on: March 25, 2020, 12:10:57 pm »
Do you know what, I take it back.

I don't know his situation.

Arnold Palmer

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Re: People who employ
« Reply #22 on: March 25, 2020, 12:30:12 pm »
Do you know what, I take it back.

I don't know his situation.

Look, it's not ideal for anyone. Just off the phone with my sister, she works for a largish catering firm. Unpaid leave. Indefinitely. She asked if she could use holidays and they refused. I could've done that but I like my team and want to do the best by them.

My staff have agreed to take their holidays now, depending on how this pans out I'd certainly consider giving them extra holidays if that's possible. Like everyone else though, I don't know what is going to happen.
They're eeeting the dogs.
They're eeeting the cats.
They're eeeting the pets,
of the people who live there.

P @ F

  • Posts: 6319
Re: People who employ
« Reply #23 on: March 25, 2020, 01:10:36 pm »
Good on Soupy I say !
At least they still have jobs for now ,  and look at the weather , it could have been pi55in down .
And I think he is the kind of boss we would all  like to have if we weren’t SE !

The chap that owns the Weatherspoons chain of pubs just laid em all off saying
 “ Get a job in Tesco “   See ya !
I'm so lazy I'm getting tired of it !

Ascjim

  • Posts: 220
Re: People who employ
« Reply #24 on: March 25, 2020, 02:41:13 pm »
Enforced holidays for two weeks (probably three now).

So you're using up their holiday for them, so you benefit.

That's nice of you.

It was either that or close the company.

It's actually up to the employers when staff take holidays.

You can't force employees to take their holiday when it suits you.

An employment lawyer would take you to the cleaners.

Yes you can but you need to give 2 days notice per holiday pay.

Ascjim

  • Posts: 220
Re: People who employ
« Reply #25 on: March 25, 2020, 02:42:46 pm »
I've decided, we will work until Friday then full pay for 2 weeks and see what happens. Hopefully I can claim the 80%, if not it's not the end of the world.

Arnold Palmer

  • Posts: 20706
Re: People who employ
« Reply #26 on: March 25, 2020, 02:45:44 pm »
I've decided, we will work until Friday then full pay for 2 weeks and see what happens. Hopefully I can claim the 80%, if not it's not the end of the world.

I think that's a good decision. There's twenty of us in total so if we get nothing from the government it's going to be tough but we'll get through it.

I feel like this is a key moment in this pandemic and when it is over I'll look back and be happy with the call which is the same as yours, pretty much.
They're eeeting the dogs.
They're eeeting the cats.
They're eeeting the pets,
of the people who live there.

jay moley

  • Posts: 479
Re: People who employ
« Reply #27 on: March 25, 2020, 02:49:03 pm »
Enforced holidays for two weeks (probably three now).

So you're using up their holiday for them, so you benefit.

That's nice of you.

It was either that or close the company.

It's actually up to the employers when staff take holidays.

You can't force employees to take their holiday when it suits you.

An employment lawyer would take you to the cleaners.

Yes you can but you need to give 2 days notice per holiday pay.

I'd love to work for you.

What's your firm called: Hitler Window Cleaning Services?

Missing Link

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Re: People who employ
« Reply #28 on: March 25, 2020, 03:51:28 pm »
The chap that owns the Weatherspoons chain of pubs just laid em all off saying
 “ Get a job in Tesco “   See ya !

Fake news.

https://www.devonlive.com/news/devon-news/wetherspoons-sets-record-straight-wages-3978279
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trevor povey

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Re: People who employ
« Reply #29 on: March 25, 2020, 04:02:01 pm »
aup gents

just wondered if anyone in a similar situ..got 2 lads that help us out one of the lads wage drops below 118.00 due to him looking after his daughter as his mrs been the main bread winner ironically in the NHS...anyone know  if he his entitled to some form  of benefit?? ..

Smudger

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Re: People who employ
« Reply #30 on: March 25, 2020, 05:41:21 pm »
Soupy - surely you need to put them on furlough- this is the only way to qualify for the (upto) 80% - paid holiday means they won’t get the aforementioned government money

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

dazmond

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Re: People who employ
« Reply #31 on: March 25, 2020, 07:30:54 pm »
A massive get out of paying us and people like us will be abide by the 2 meter rule,I wouldn’t be surprised if our job gets mentioned later today. If you can work with no contact continue to do so or if you work alone,I can see it coming if gives us no choice then.

fingers crossed.....personally id rather be allowed to work than get handouts off the government......
price higher/work harder!

KS Cleaning

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Re: People who employ
« Reply #32 on: March 25, 2020, 08:03:29 pm »
I was asked by a customer last week if I was glad I don’t employ anymore given the current situation. Of course I replied, out of all the guys I employed over the years I probably would have supported maybe 10 of them, the other 40 or so would av been sent packing.

G Griffin

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Re: People who employ
« Reply #33 on: March 25, 2020, 08:14:39 pm »
A massive get out of paying us and people like us will be abide by the 2 meter rule,I wouldn’t be surprised if our job gets mentioned later today. If you can work with no contact continue to do so or if you work alone,I can see it coming if gives us no choice then.

fingers crossed.....personally id rather be allowed to work than get handouts off the government......
Most would. The handouts would be because of government policies. They are changing the market, not us.
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Arnold Palmer

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Re: People who employ
« Reply #34 on: March 26, 2020, 01:00:54 pm »
Went to the office this morning.

30 cancellations including our biggest contract.

This is going to sting for some time.
They're eeeting the dogs.
They're eeeting the cats.
They're eeeting the pets,
of the people who live there.

davids3511

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Re: People who employ
« Reply #35 on: March 26, 2020, 01:04:28 pm »
Enforced holidays for two weeks (probably three now).

So you're using up their holiday for them, so you benefit.

That's nice of you.
Well, he's trying to make sure they have a job to return to. Better the join the 500k applying for universal credit?

Missing Link

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Re: People who employ
« Reply #36 on: March 26, 2020, 01:09:25 pm »
Went to the office this morning.

30 cancellations including our biggest contract.

This is going to sting for some time.

That's bad news.  And are these definitely cancellations rather than a 'put on hold'?

It's got to be tough for people in your position; I know I'm a wind up merchant; but I'm not totally without empathy.

Ish.
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davids3511

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Re: People who employ
« Reply #37 on: March 26, 2020, 01:11:14 pm »
Went to the office this morning.

30 cancellations including our biggest contract.

This is going to sting for some time.
That's hard, because you have so many it seems so much worse too. Not nearly as big as you but because there are 4 of us and I see all the cancellations it feels so much worse than when I was on my own but in reality its just 4 times more. Hope some of that wasn't gibberish.