[JohnL]

Are you sure you are the WFPer the original thread is quoting because the contentious wording is .  .  .  trad w/c is now illegal and that they are the only people who comply with the law in the area.  .  . and would upset the trad boys. 

Your letter does not use that phrase.

The letter you use is quite straight forward, to the point, well worded and is probably similar to others throughout the country and also one which other WFPers may wish to use as a basis for their own   

I cant see a problem with that mbredalert  and thanks for clarifying your position 

JohnL

[mbredalert]

Are you sure you are the WFPer the original thread is quoting because the contentious wording is .  .  .  trad w/c is now illegal and that they are the only people who comply with the law in the area.  .  . and would upset the trad boys. 

Your letter does not use that phrase.

The letter you use is quite straight forward, to the point, well worded and is probably similar to others throughout the country and also one which other WFPers may wish to use as a basis for their own   

I cant see a problem with that mbredalert  and thanks for clarifying your position 

JohnL

I'm not sure now you mention it JohnL, maybe I jumped to a conclusion. Skewen is a smallish village, and the only w/c's I have seen in the village use ladders at the moment. I definately did not say in my letter that trad w/c was illegal, or anything about liabilty if someone falls. Maybe wtatum is referring to someone else that I haven't seen? If so I'd like to know who it is 

[abacus]

 Hi all

the letter above seems fine to me if it is the same co someone has some wires crossed somewhere

as for wfp and trad the hse have set the guide lines and are due to give futher guidence. From first hand experience with them they are very unlikly to to give specific rules e:g do not use ladders for window cleaning this would be counter productive. The ladder companies would take them to court to prove they were safe or to recieve compensation.this would be taken to the euro court and dragged out for years while doing this the rules would probably have to be suspended.
It matters very little how you read it in the case of an accident you will be found guilty if you use ladders as with hindsight you can  say it was not the safest way to clean the window.
They will not give anyone the charnce to prosicute them so they simply  say it is legal to use ladders if...
the list is endless the point is most trad wc put their ladders on grass and earth so even with it being legal to use ladders they have broken the rules and thus are open to prosicution.
The pole manufactures do read the rules to suit them and use it to sell thier systems
Trad cleaners read it to suit themselves and carrey on the way they want
sometimes I think it becomes just a stick in the mud situation on both sides

Thepoint is when they clamp down on it are you sure whatever method you use you are complying
win the battle on this forum great... lose the war to them and it will cost a lot more than a red face
in both hard earned cash and reputation

be lucky but best be safe

regards all 
grant