[nathankaye]

You should, whip out your phone and do a quick recording and post back on here. Surely you can spare a couple of mins whilst your working inorder to do so.
😂

[Smudger]

I used peter fogwills aquatap a lot - at the time it was a good alternative to the aquadaptor as it was more reliable (no springs) however it has many issues - it’s not long before they stiffen up or become loose - o rings needed greasing every few weeks - put stain on the pole clamps and we got lots of wear on the pole when open and closing was stiffer then normal

During cleaning it became apparent that moving to a corner of of a window to turn off got annoying and almost impossible to achieve at 30 feet up

Univalve is superior than any twist motion tap - long lasting easy to use pretty much maintenance free

Darran

[david mark]

I made my own bracket to clip on the bottom of the pole which holds a 1/4 American stainless steel square ball valve

[Arnold Palmer]

Be useless with a swivel. I’m out...

Takes about half an hour to get used to..

[Arnold Palmer]

i actually liked the old prototype i was sent by alex a few years ago but it started leaking after a day.hopefully they ve ironed out the teething problems.....i would buy one but im still on my first univalve from a few years ago...still works perfectly well plus i bought two so i have a spare.....

They have.

[Arnold Palmer]

I've been using these for a couple of months. Very good. There are advantages and disadvantages over the univalve.

[P @ F]

I've been using these for a couple of months. Very good. There are advantages and disadvantages over the univalve.

Such as ?

[Arnold Palmer]

I've been using these for a couple of months. Very good. There are advantages and disadvantages over the univalve.

Such as ?

Univalve
Pros
No learning curve.
More ‘certain’ as a shut off when loaded into the van (you could leave your pole connected all day)
Can be retrofitted to any pole on the market (except poles with exceed tubeless I guess??)
 
Cons
Not as ‘fluid’ to use - more likely to not be used between windows
Additional flex in the pole hose makes it difficult to operate at height
Metal o-clip needed near the brush and therefore glass
Once fitted it's not easily stipped out  (a pain on frosty days)

Gardiner’s valve
Pros
More fluid in operation, once you get the hang of it turning the water off between windows becomes natural
Saves more water as used more often
Seamless integration on our SLXs
Can be used while in operation without removing your hands from the pole (handy for wiping vents that you don’t want to get wet)
Easily stripped out for defrosting
More "complete" product. None of this o clip bodge business.
 
Cons
Flex and/or wear in the pole/clamps makes it difficult to work at height especially on velux windows and windows off at an angle (i.e. above conservatories)
Learning curve (about 1/2 an hour for an decent lad)
More prone to blockages - (we've had about 6 in 2 months. Very easy to fix though)


All in all there is not too much in it. Some of our boys prefer one, some the other. Most weren't bothered, they do the same job with a slightly different technique. If I was out cleaning windows, I'd have the gardiners, it makes for (slightly) quicker cleaning and saves (slightly) more water.

[robbo333]

I'm going to get one with my next order, give it a go.

[DeLuce]

I couldn’t get on with v1. It was awkward in a way. That’s the word that comes to mind. And a faff, and yet it was a simple enough system. Just needed tweaking.
I went for the Univalve, which I think is very simple to install and use. Hard to beat.
I like to try new things though, and see for myself if it will make life a little easier, I think I’ll give it a bash 

[H MAN]

Just have wireless remote on pole to a solenoid water shut off valve switch at the water supply.
No faffing around with mechanical  switches.

[H MAN]

Anyway there is already better solution anyone got feed back on this.
https://youtu.be/jYPEPr5e72U

[tlwcs]

Just have wireless remote on pole to a solenoid water shut off valve switch at the water supply.
No faffing around with mechanical  switches.

Similar to my set up but every time I press one button it unlocks the metro 🚗

[lee_dewing]

I tried gardeners v1

Flawed design needed cleaning and servicing

Think I got a replacement as it broke (maybe wrong here, can’t exactly remember)

Give up with it and got univalve !

See gardeners new version claims no servicing interesting 🤔

univalve is coming to the end of its life but I’ve had it over 2 years so very pleased 😃

I don’t think I’d risk the unknown

Alex and Gardiners great company though 👍🤗

[M & C Window Cleaning]

The main issue I had with the v1 gooseneck valve was that I couldn't operate it well under the weight of the pole alone.
I had to place some down force on the pole to keep the brush in place whilst twisting the pole most of the time. Problem was, the valve stuck one winter morning when the pole was fully extended and I accidently placed too much down force on the pole and broke a perfectly good SLX which annoyed me somewhat as it was a pole that otherwise has plenty of life left in it. I ended up selling it for spares and purchased an Xtreme 22, which is now my favourite pole. But there's no way I'd chance it with one of these unless I knew for sure it would work under pole and brush weight alone. Outside of this I actually quite liked the way it operated.

[nathankaye]

Any chance Alex, a member of this forum could be sent one to also do a review on and share it with the group?
🤔 a cheeky ask.

Or has there been reviews on it or in the process of being done? Does any body know

[P @ F]

Any chance Alex, a member of this forum could be sent one to also do a review on and share it with the group?
🤔 a cheeky ask.

Or has there been reviews on it or in the process of being done? Does any body know

Nath , are you turning into HMan ?
As far as I can see you missed the boat mate , I think field tests have been long done , 

[nathankaye]

Any chance Alex, a member of this forum could be sent one to also do a review on and share it with the group?
🤔 a cheeky ask.

Or has there been reviews on it or in the process of being done? Does any body know

Nath , are you turning into HMan ?
As far as I can see you missed the boat mate , I think field tests have been long done , 

Ahh pays to read all the responses on the thread.  😂😂😂

[Jonny 87]

I had to order a few bits and pieces anyway, so I’ve ordered one.

I’ll let you know my findings. 

[Michael Peterson]

I really like Gardiners products and customer service , however I feel let down on this occasion and with this product which is why I’m not going to try it , as nice as it might be. I understand that products take time to work and become perfect. I’ve had a good five of the old product and everyone of them leaked broke and was Aweful quite quickly , they replaced a couple and I didn’t bother with the rest . I was told they couldn’t really understand it as no one was reporting faults with the product...I am concerned with this as now clearly I see this was not the case