[Dry Clean]

I'm personally glad that the industry in wfp has developed to where it is today. Could you imagine if the industry stayed stagnant with the first lot of poles etc that came out and used the argument that, if it isn't broken don't fix it, attitude.
Granted in my opinion there are some gimmicks and variations that I don't see adding much difference. Such as vision for instance, but that said, I have never tried it so I can't really give an opinion about it.

Personally for me, i like an heavy brush and plenty of water cascading down the window to help with the clean and a faster rinse. I also know my brush and know that on my technique I can rinse on the glass with no problems and any dodgy seal or top frame, I can adjust the technique accordingly. Which is knowledge and confidence in my cleaning ability and not as some view it, as the reliance on hot water or rinsing the window to death.

Wouldn't life be boring if everything was the same and no additional choices or personal preferences were allowed.
Any car can get you from A to B.
Any style of clothing will cover your body and be suitable for its intent n purpose.
Same can be said for hot beverages, cold beverages, alcohol, food, shelter etc etc the list goes on. Can you imagine only having the one of each ofthe things mentioned, because at the end of the day, it does the job and that's all that matters.  Yet ones want to insist that the same logic here doesn't apply in our line of work. In my opinion this line of thinking is limiting.

The problem with your broken logic is the industry has been fixing what IS broken, its why we can now work with lightweight poles, brushes and so on.
Iv yet to hear one of you faffers come on here and say... guys I'm having a problem with X do you know if there are any solutions
to my problem. jumping on the latest gadget and then looking for a reason to use it seems to be the main cause for most of the faff on here, you're deluded if you think that's how we make things better.

I don't see how it is broken logic. The thing is, heavy or light poles makes no difference in your argument. So it's an heavy pole, but you know, it got the job done!
But if you are saying that the development of lighter poles and poles which are telescopic etc make the job easier and quicker then isn't that you agreeing with the vast majority of what we are saying. That these improvements are a slight variation o what already works but with the advantage of making it easier etc.

No what I'm saying is heavy and whippy poles were a problem that the industry has done its best to remove, now what problems have you been getting with your jets that has lead you to buy a rinse bar ?  like I have said there's problem solving and there is faff.

[P @ F]

See , Nath just likes to tinker round with stuff as do I , I think WFP has pretty much gone as far as it can go really , we have hot , we have leccy reels , not much more is needed or even required to clean a window , sure things can get lighter and they will , but you cant really get purer than pure , hotter than hot .
Suppliers will always sell the next must have gadget and certain w/c's will buy it regardless of if its needed or not .
I like to sit back and see the fuss , if i think i can benefit from it big time then dependant on price i will buy the real Mcoy , if too much i will make a similar item to the best of my capability if at all possible , hence why i wind in with a black and decker drill  , £400 on a reel , no thanks matey 

[mufcglen]

I feel I started differently to most other wfp users in that I started off using fans over pencils years ago, I’ve always had both options fitted to my brushes but I just could never get on with the standard gardiner pencil size I used to find it bounced off the glass and didn’t give enough wave on the window so stuck with fans.
Years later I then tried 3mm jets and it was like a revelation, at first I thought they gave a lazy flow but turning up the flow rate I found I ended up using same if not less water and quicker rinsing as the waters not bouncing back off and gives a good wave on the glass, as I got more and more confident I barely do a rinse anymore as it washes the dirt down so well and I can see it still pooring down after I’ve come off that section of glass.
I tried the bissel diy rinse bar and wasn’t for me trying to get to top of frames without touching the wall above.
Ive always found it odd not enough people try enjoy 3mm pencils!