[֍Winp®oClean֍]

Yeah you know i have always wanted a motorcycle. Mum and dad prevented me from getting one 3 times throughout my life.

37 years old on a 125cc bike on L plates its hilarious really. Feel like a teenager again.

Whats really suprised me is how friendly the motorcycle community are. Really very enjoyable, plus the feeling you get even on a 125 is just awesome.  Tell you what its made me a much better driver, and the 1st time you get on a motorbike 30 mph feels like 90mph.

I used to race 125's and although a road going 125 and a pure race produced engine are like night and day.. you still wouldn't believe just how much power and how fast a 125 can be! Power to weight ratio plays a big part also.

[Dry Clean]

Well what fun everyone has had around the Xmas dinner table.

Now I'm back from my little jaunts and have opened up CIU I see much fun has been had with the swinging of the handbags. Sadly a couple of black eyes and bruised feelings.

One or two members seems to have put lead weights in their handbags and that is not a nice thing to do in the playground and so here is a list of those who are on a "final warning" to please be less abrasive and to try to be more helpful.

DRY CLEAN

That is the end of the present list. There are a couple of others who were good contenders but hopefully their names will not go on "ze list" just yet.

 

(roll eyes)
I think Iv calmed down enough to reply to this,
Gold I have no problem accepting a warning over this issue and adjusting my behaviour but  once again when its come to
your moderating on here its one rule for one and  another rule for others.
Its seems its now alright to attack a persons charactor and verbally abuse on here as long as you agree with them therefore
if your unable to moderate with fairness and impartiality maybe its time you give the job to somebody who can.

[AuRavelling79]

More than one mod on here Dry Clean. Apply to admin any who want it.

Maybe go back and read your own posts and reflect on them rather than worry about others.

[Og]

I had a Simpson that I pushed more than rode.
Then a rd50 that was indestructible
Xs 250 with 6 gears. Why??
Cb5504k great if you liked traveling in a straight line.

[Dry Clean]

More than one mod on here Dry Clean. Apply to admin any who want it.

Maybe go back and read your own posts and reflect on them rather than worry about others.

I know my posts where wrong Gold which is why I'm happy to accept the warning but I know there are others involved who where equally as bad and by not giving them the same treatment as you have given me you are justifing what they have posted,
some of the guys involved have even liked your post.
You cant keep using the fact that anybody can apply to be a moderator as an excuse, I will reflect and try to adjust my behaviour
but you certainly need to do the same when it comes to your moderating.
This will be my last word on this subject as I'm trying to be less argumentative, have a happy and prosperous new year

[AuRavelling79]

The problem is Dryclean is that we don't always know what goes on behind the scenes.

Sometimes the mods will receive several reports to moderator about a certain poster in a relatively short space of time. We don't always act upon those reports immediately (and if it is a solitary report maybe not at all) but if we find there is a pattern of behaviour then we may choose to do something about it.

If I am first on the scene I will make a decision based on forum rules, how other members appear to view the situation, how I view the situation and perhaps most importantly, how I believe forum admin would want the situation handled.

If another mod has got there first I will almost invariably accept his/her decision as one of a range of options  that might have been applied.

Often it is a fine line. And I/we won't please everybody everytime (or maybe anybody any time!) but I am fairly comfortable in the way I operate and interact.

Best wishes

[Steve Newres]

More than one mod on here Dry Clean. Apply to admin any who want it.

Maybe go back and read your own posts and reflect on them rather than worry about others.

I think you’re a pretty decent mod on the whole, but I find myself in agreement with the lack of fairness. Until Admin stepped in and banned temporarily the worst offender under Two IDs on here, he got away with the most foul personal abuse that on two occasions was more than I was willing to put up with. Dry Clean was a little bit mean to the OP, but in truth the OP needs some truths pointing out to him.

[Slacky]

My ol’ Granny always used to say ‘it’s not what you say, but how you say it’.

I’ve carried this little gem close to my heart throughout my adult years.

It has proved to be a distinctly profound piece of advice and has helped me make many friends and saved many tortured souls.

[AuRavelling79]

One person's "little bit mean" is another person's "foul abuse" and yet another's "plain  nastiness." No one was banned. Just a warning put up. But they might have been. Who knows in a given situation?

Sometimes Admin. steps in when a mod is just not around to see the final escalation of a situation.

If Admin steps in and bans more quickly than I would have liked I bow to their authority and wider view. I then look at what caused the situation and try to adapt for when the next situation arises.

I'm not too experienced to learn.

[Steve Newres]

My ol’ Granny always used to say ‘it’s not what you say, but how you say it’.

I’ve carried this little gem close to my heart throughout my adult years.

It has proved to be a distinctly profound piece of advice and has helped me make many friends and saved many tortured souls.

I think that’s a fair point. Dry Clean is not always tactful to put it mildly.

[Arnold Palmer]

My ol’ Granny always used to say ‘it’s not what you say, but how you say it’.

I’ve carried this little gem close to my heart throughout my adult years.

It has proved to be a distinctly profound piece of advice and has helped me make many friends and saved many tortured souls.

You? Many friends?

Doubt it.

[Dry Clean]

My ol’ Granny always used to say ‘it’s not what you say, but how you say it’.

I’ve carried this little gem close to my heart throughout my adult years.

It has proved to be a distinctly profound piece of advice and has helped me make many friends and saved many tortured souls.

I think that’s a fair point. Dry Clean is not always tactful to put it mildly.

Totally agree buts that's no excuse, I could just as well say most of my replies where in retaliation for the abuse I received
but that's also no excuse, there's also a few guys on here who could do with reading John 8- 7.

[Slacky]

My ol’ Granny always used to say ‘it’s not what you say, but how you say it’.

I’ve carried this little gem close to my heart throughout my adult years.

It has proved to be a distinctly profound piece of advice and has helped me make many friends and saved many tortured souls.

You? Many friends?

Doubt it.

Despite what you say my friend I suspect you’re a kindly chap. May God bless you my son.

[Marc Stock]

Listen guys.

I am really not bothered at all. I expressed my opinions on the matter too. Dry Clean is entitled to his opinions and whilst i may not agree perhaps with the way he sometimes delivers his posts  im certainly not emotionally damaged over the situation.

I gave as much back,(with a bit of humour) as he gave to me.

Behind the keyboard its difficult to get a correct judement of context.

Personally i think Dry Clean doesn't help himself, he could use more tact...yes..he could be less aggressive in his nature...yes..does he alienate  himself a little because of it...probably..but thats his problem.

Do i dislike Dry Clean? No.

Do i like Dry Clean? No.

Do i wish to see him banned? Of course not. I dont want to see anyone banned.

At the end of the day this has been one good old conversation. Everyone has had an input, in my opinion if someone has made an effort to type something then its a valid contribution, even if i find it a little abrasive or offensive.

Now Dry Clean. I have been sitting i  these wet blankets now for a while are you going to change them or what?
 

[AuRavelling79]

So everyone has shaken hands, yes? Kissed and made up? All resolved to be an honest and where possible, positive contributor to CIU throughout 2018. Ready to tolerate more crappy moderating when it occurs? Happy to remember what Slacky's granny said?

Lovely. I'm going to draw a line under this thread and thank you for your input.