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dazmond

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Re: seriousley thinking of selling up
« Reply #60 on: October 26, 2017, 08:04:21 am »
Am I the only fool working a 40+ hour week?


You need to make the job more interesting, some kind of challenge.
Window cleaning destroys the soul, it's that boring.

i couldnt work 40+ hours a week window cleaning every week. ;D
price higher/work harder!

Shrek

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Re: seriousley thinking of selling up
« Reply #61 on: October 26, 2017, 08:14:03 am »
Am I the only fool working a 40+ hour week?


You need to make the job more interesting, some kind of challenge.
Window cleaning destroys the soul, it's that boring.

i couldnt work 40+ hours a week window cleaning every week. ;D

You’d be richer than your brother if you did  ;D ;D

dazmond

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Re: seriousley thinking of selling up
« Reply #62 on: October 26, 2017, 08:15:21 am »
Am I the only fool working a 40+ hour week?


You need to make the job more interesting, some kind of challenge.
Window cleaning destroys the soul, it's that boring.

i couldnt work 40+ hours a week window cleaning every week. ;D

You’d be richer than your brother if you did  ;D ;D

...and id be miserable........ ;D
price higher/work harder!

Dry Clean

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Re: seriousley thinking of selling up
« Reply #63 on: October 26, 2017, 08:44:02 am »
Bailiffs  won't worry if you don't pay your bills, they'll just seize your assets, surely that's enough motivation to get working to pay the bills, money in the bank then you can afford to get depressed, have a well earned holiday, otherwise get to work and get your motivation back before your bills get on top of you and you lose everything you've worked so hard for, simple  ;D

There's no doubt about it the bailiffs are a great motivator but I get the feeling Dave's at a stage in his life where they are no longer a threat, its very easy to put up with crap when your faced with ending up on the streets not so much when its to pay
for a weeks holiday.

Stoots

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Re: seriousley thinking of selling up
« Reply #64 on: October 26, 2017, 04:27:05 pm »
I think the motivator for me to keep going through the messers, dog poop gardens, rain etc is the vision i have when its all set up and running how i want it.

Thats vision may never materialise but hope and goals are the thing that drives humans beings to keep going.

Maybe the business has stagnated for some, all they see is cleaning windows forever and going through the motions  and it all gets a bit depressing.

Some obviously relish in simply going through the motions and dont seemt o want or strive or better, i think thats fantastic for those people who can take life for what it is. But others thrive on challenge and growth and to stand still is to go backwards.

dazmond

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Re: seriousley thinking of selling up
« Reply #65 on: October 26, 2017, 05:38:06 pm »
I think the motivator for me to keep going through the messers, dog poop gardens, rain etc is the vision i have when its all set up and running how i want it.

Thats vision may never materialise but hope and goals are the thing that drives humans beings to keep going.

Maybe the business has stagnated for some, all they see is cleaning windows forever and going through the motions  and it all gets a bit depressing.

Some obviously relish in simply going through the motions and dont seemt o want or strive or better, i think thats fantastic for those people who can take life for what it is. But others thrive on challenge and growth and to stand still is to go backwards.

i never go backwards adam.im still always tweaking and refining my round.it never ends.
price higher/work harder!

windowswashed

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Re: seriousley thinking of selling up
« Reply #66 on: October 26, 2017, 07:22:32 pm »
Am I the only fool working a 40+ hour week?


You need to make the job more interesting, some kind of challenge.
Window cleaning destroys the soul, it's that boring.

Window cleaning can be tedious. Got excited today and tried out my wide extreme brush with two rinse bars cut and joined together giving me a 42 jet rinse bar, that's 11 jets more than on reach-it's constructor brushes, ...it worked successfully but had to turn my pump up to 70 to get a decent flow but it was successful so that made my day trying that out and a Jack brush  that's meant for bissell carpet cleaning.....good brush for only a fiver, scrubs good and lighter than an extreme  :) Ran out of water almost today but that was because of my extra long rinse bar, bloody quick, two passes and your average window is done, splash and dash  ;D

Slacky

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Re: seriousley thinking of selling up
« Reply #67 on: October 26, 2017, 07:30:23 pm »
"The grass is NOT always greener the other side of the fence".

It is.


But the $hit still stinks.

Miko67

  • Posts: 86
Re: seriousley thinking of selling up
« Reply #68 on: October 27, 2017, 10:50:12 am »
I've bn there with this job, and it was this time of the year too. It kept playing on my mind.
Fast forward nearly sold up and was cleaning up in a carers job working all hours and having to do menial paper work n go to health safety classes etc. money was crap and hours were long. Night shift also .
Went back to cleaning wibdows freakin skipping man. Still find it good to be a free man.
Maybe listen to some les brown and stuff like that on youtube . 
Or see ways out there before you make the leap

Plankton

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Re: seriousley thinking of selling up
« Reply #69 on: October 27, 2017, 11:29:07 am »
Windows isn't that bad and you could always be a lot worse off, imagine you were a Rangers new co supporter! Then you'd have something to feel bad about.  :D

Marc Stock

Re: seriousley thinking of selling up
« Reply #70 on: October 27, 2017, 01:41:29 pm »
Haven't had time to read through all the posts. But here's my two pence worth.

If you know you have had enough and your heart just isn't in it anymore, you have come to the end. You have to address it.

My advice is this, don't sell the business right away. You can always do that as a last resort.

Get some "you" time back. Go down to 3 days a week, get someone out in the van for the 2 days and see how you feel for a year.  You may even get your mojo back in 3 months and start picking up more work and your then transforming from doing the work to running the business.

If you still feel like selling up after then at least you have considered all avenues and you will have  increased your market share and turnover being able to sell for a higher price eventually.

I have been doing this for 15 years nearly and trust me I know how you feel. I sold my business once before and always regretted it.

Only work I didn't regret selling is the Farnham rounds as traffic was a nightmare from Woking.

Anyway see how you feel once you have tried those avenues. I am doing the same as I am also sick and tired of the job now. I'm down to 4 days a week, still got lots of work on but more condensed and efficient on the working days. Wednesdays are "me" days. 😎



Paul Wisdom

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Re: seriousley thinking of selling up
« Reply #71 on: October 27, 2017, 04:25:00 pm »
Go Fishing  ;D

dazmond

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Re: seriousley thinking of selling up
« Reply #72 on: October 27, 2017, 07:02:34 pm »
Haven't had time to read through all the posts. But here's my two pence worth.

If you know you have had enough and your heart just isn't in it anymore, you have come to the end. You have to address it.

My advice is this, don't sell the business right away. You can always do that as a last resort.

Get some "you" time back. Go down to 3 days a week, get someone out in the van for the 2 days and see how you feel for a year.  You may even get your mojo back in 3 months and start picking up more work and your then transforming from doing the work to running the business.

If you still feel like selling up after then at least you have considered all avenues and you will have  increased your market share and turnover being able to sell for a higher price eventually.

I have been doing this for 15 years nearly and trust me I know how you feel. I sold my business once before and always regretted it.

Only work I didn't regret selling is the Farnham rounds as traffic was a nightmare from Woking.

Anyway see how you feel once you have tried those avenues. I am doing the same as I am also sick and tired of the job now. I'm down to 4 days a week, still got lots of work on but more condensed and efficient on the working days. Wednesdays are "me" days. 😎

good advice that marc.

whats helped me over the last few years is keeping my hours short(5 or 6 hours a day "on the glass")and having most weekends off.clean lifestyle and looking after myself.couple that with more efficient working practices and better quality higher priced work and im onto a winner. 8)
price higher/work harder!

jo5hm4n

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Re: seriousley thinking of selling up
« Reply #73 on: October 27, 2017, 07:22:52 pm »
For me to stop life getting boring and work for that matter it's all about constantly improving and moving forward as opposed to standing still or moving backwards.  Having a goal or something to work towards gets me out of bed.  Regardless of whether i will ever hit those goals it's still a challenge and something to aim for and drive me.

You need goals that are achievable though and realistic so you feel rewarded when you hit them.  I set about 10 goals this year and i've hit atleast half of them, and i am well happy about that.

If you just keep cleaning windows forever and ever with no change it is going to get tiring and boring.  Even if i can just make small improvements here and there, that is what drives me forward.  How can i improve my technique, earn more per hour, work less hours, cut costs down, get better customers, convert bad payers, price higher.  The list goes on and on.  Point is that is what keeps me interested in doing the job.  Otherwise work will just feel like work without any real direction.  Then you could end up just becoming like some of the employee mindset person who hates their job and it's a struggle every day.

Sometimes the Journey is more exciting than the destination.  That's just my take on things anyway through the eyes of a 24 year old welshman LOL

windowswashed

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Re: seriousley thinking of selling up
« Reply #74 on: October 27, 2017, 08:49:48 pm »
For me to stop life getting boring and work for that matter it's all about constantly improving and moving forward as opposed to standing still or moving backwards.  Having a goal or something to work towards gets me out of bed.  Regardless of whether i will ever hit those goals it's still a challenge and something to aim for and drive me.

You need goals that are achievable though and realistic so you feel rewarded when you hit them.  I set about 10 goals this year and i've hit atleast half of them, and i am well happy about that.

If you just keep cleaning windows forever and ever with no change it is going to get tiring and boring.  Even if i can just make small improvements here and there, that is what drives me forward.  How can i improve my technique, earn more per hour, work less hours, cut costs down, get better customers, convert bad payers, price higher.  The list goes on and on.  Point is that is what keeps me interested in doing the job.  Otherwise work will just feel like work without any real direction.  Then you could end up just becoming like some of the employee mindset person who hates their job and it's a struggle every day.

Sometimes the Journey is more exciting than the destination.  That's just my take on things anyway through the eyes of a 24 year old welshman LOL

After 20 years I do similar, always try different things. Even pick up in new areas and concentrate on building up concentrated work in a new area if affluent.  Always increase lowest price work every year or lose it. All the bad payers,  any dodgy ones, awkward jobs get left til last and sometimes just get sick of doing the tedious ones and end up letting them go as too much hassle  which ain't worth getting depressed about. Try to stay positive and find new ways to motivate myself (or rather kid myself this job is brilliant haha ) Just keep plodding on with new work with better prices and better customers. Make a point of taking more irregular days off if I want and take proper holidays more often to stop any boredom developing