Well it was a balance between price and availability with delivery, a Sebo would have been tops but browsing down ebay I came across a Karcher CV38/2 at 179.95, a reasonable price I thought for a new machine that was reduced because it had been on display, in the end I only paid £150. Early days yet but I used it today and it seems light reasonably quiet and has good suction, a 38cms width and comes with tools too. Thanks for all the replies.