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nathankaye

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Re: Saved loads on a tank frame!
« Reply #20 on: February 05, 2017, 02:12:39 am »
So if grippa reduced its price to meet or come close to the retail price direct from the manufacturer.........would grippa's reputation suffer.....would they loose sales....would anything trully suffer other than the profit margin and at what difference??
Ie silly maths,,but say instead of £100 per unit it became £80 per unit. In wk one the old price used to sell at 1 a wk =£100.  But with new price they are selling 2 a week = £160.
Sometimes less can be more....

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dazmond

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Re: Saved loads on a tank frame!
« Reply #21 on: February 05, 2017, 08:03:56 am »
At the end of the day we ve all got to make money!
price higher/work harder!

tlwcs

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Re: Saved loads on a tank frame!
« Reply #22 on: February 05, 2017, 08:23:36 am »
I would also bet Gripper pay nowhere near what the original poster was quoted.
My bet would be the owner of Gripper als owns or has a share in this fabrication company
Tony

Clever Forum Name

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Re: Saved loads on a tank frame!
« Reply #23 on: February 05, 2017, 08:52:21 am »
GT have the frames made and then ship them out to stockist.

The problem with Tek tanks is there prices haven't been updated for years that's why the prices are massively different.

When i wanted a tank lid it was nearly double the cost compared to on the website and guess who they had to go to get it.....Yes GT.

In 2013 when i wanted the pro range i shopped around and was tempted to get a TekTank by the time i had it made it was going to cost the same as a crash tested system from Grippatank so i went back to Grippatank and ordered my system in 2014 and had it fitted.

Its just a simple case of old prices i am guessing.

tlwcs

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Re: Saved loads on a tank frame!
« Reply #24 on: February 05, 2017, 10:05:32 am »
GT have the frames made and then ship them out to stockist.

The problem with Tek tanks is there prices haven't been updated for years that's why the prices are massively different.

When i wanted a tank lid it was nearly double the cost compared to on the website and guess who they had to go to get it.....Yes GT.

In 2013 when i wanted the pro range i shopped around and was tempted to get a TekTank by the time i had it made it was going to cost the same as a crash tested system from Grippatank so i went back to Grippatank and ordered my system in 2014 and had it fitted.

Its just a simple case of old prices i am guessing.

Maybe. Gripper are very active on here. I find it strange "old prices" were raised after this thread.
Tony

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Re: Saved loads on a tank frame!
« Reply #25 on: February 05, 2017, 10:18:03 am »
So if grippa reduced its price to meet or come close to the retail price direct from the manufacturer.........would grippa's reputation suffer.....would they loose sales....would anything trully suffer other than the profit margin and at what difference??
Ie silly maths,,but say instead of £100 per unit it became £80 per unit. In wk one the old price used to sell at 1 a wk =£100.  But with new price they are selling 2 a week = £160.
Sometimes less can be more....

Go out tomorrow Nath and drop all your prices by 20%- the customers will be so chuffed they'll actively promote your services and the work will come flooding in.

If I was Grippa I would be furious to say the least! Business works Two ways.
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Re: Saved loads on a tank frame!
« Reply #26 on: February 05, 2017, 10:40:44 am »
Its obvious this was going to happen. Grippa advertise on here.
Years ago, I bought a well known piece of equipment at source from its manufacturer as they were local to me. I saved myself at least 25 % on what suppliers were selling it for, I kept it to myself though   ;)
Had it have become common knowledge over the internet and  they'd  have had more people inquiring after the same deal it would have upset the business relationship they had with their suppliers and ultimately would have been bad for business.

Stoots

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Re: Saved loads on a tank frame!
« Reply #27 on: February 05, 2017, 10:48:51 am »
Just like there will always be customers who will pay 20 quid for a terrace house to be cleaned when they could get it done for half that or less. Grippa will always appeal to the guys with plenty of money and not much in the way of d.I.y skills or frugality.

The clever guys amongst us would aim to be grippa from a selling point with our services but the cheapskate with our purchases.

Clever Forum Name

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Re: Saved loads on a tank frame!
« Reply #28 on: February 05, 2017, 10:59:42 am »
Just like there will always be customers who will pay 20 quid for a terrace house to be cleaned when they could get it done for half that or less. Grippa will always appeal to the guys with plenty of money and not much in the way of d.I.y skills or frugality.

The clever guys amongst us would aim to be grippa from a selling point with our services but the cheapskate with our purchases.

I could build a system just as good as Grippatank using my DIY skills and having parts sourced and made for me but you forgot time. I haven't got the time to be doing all of that.

The last van i dropped off was done in 3 days including the floor.

Smurf

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Re: Saved loads on a tank frame!
« Reply #29 on: February 05, 2017, 11:45:14 am »
Prices do look steep don't they. The question begs are they actualy crash tested for that price?
https://www.grippatank.co.uk/shop-by-industry/water-tanks/grippapro-fully-welded-tank-frames

Jamie Thomas

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Re: Saved loads on a tank frame!
« Reply #30 on: February 05, 2017, 06:40:24 pm »
Going by the spec on the drawing of the 500 tank frame it's made from 50mm angle iron or 2in in old money. Any half decent fabricator could knock one of them up miles cheaper than that. And all the crash test speil that frame is only as good as the weld's and any good welder's weld will be just as good as there welder can do. In a fabricator's shop with the tools they have it's a good mornings work. I used to work for a large engineering company which had a fabricator's shop. Iv had them make a large coolent tank in a day that's cut folded and welded with leak proof joints in a day.

cgh window cleaning

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Re: Saved loads on a tank frame!
« Reply #31 on: February 05, 2017, 07:45:55 pm »
The frames in the link as far as I know are not crash tested and the description on the site does not seem to claim they are.
These frames hold wydale tanks they don't  look or are similar in anyway to the grippamax crash tested  tanks and frames.
Why grippa are putting there name to them is beyond me as the whole selling point of the grippa system is crash tested fully baffled tanks and frames.

Susan Dean (1stclean)

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Re: Saved loads on a tank frame!
« Reply #32 on: February 05, 2017, 07:54:41 pm »
Prices do look steep don't they. The question begs are they actualy crash tested for that price?
https://www.grippatank.co.uk/shop-by-industry/water-tanks/grippapro-fully-welded-tank-frames

funny you should say that I asked them on here if they could prove the crash testing , then they started banging on about how unsafe straps were again I asked for there figers on this

once I pointed out that if they could prove straps were unsafe they had a duty of care as a company to publish there findings to the haulage industry people like , eddie Stobart , asda.tesgos ect ect are using straps and if grippa can prove they not up to the job there putting millions on lives on the line

 they went very quite after this so I guess they were talking bull

Jon_Phelps

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Re: Saved loads on a tank frame!
« Reply #33 on: February 05, 2017, 09:04:01 pm »
i'm the guy who started the thread.  just wanted to let those know who were interested in buying the same frame advertised on grippa for cheaper.

i would have happily ordered from grippa but they inflated their prices after Christmas by quite some margin. so i shopped around.  its quite possible they saw this thread and corrected the price with tek-tanks or equally possible tek-tanks put the order through to them at last years price causing the alarm bells to ring.  either way i still get the frame at a price I'm happy to pay.

i ordered this particular frame due the bolt holes for add ons.  I'm quite good at DIY so I'm planning on adding my own bolt on shelves etc,  and its not permanent so if it doesn't work i'll bolt them somewhere else.  plus I've ordered a power HD reel which I'm welding to the top of the frame.  perhaps on some heavy duty bearings so i can swivel it to the side loading door when needed.  yet to decide on this.

i also thought of making some steal brackets to fit the frame through the vans existing loading eye bolts so i don't need to drill holes through the van floor.  just a thought.

jon 

Jamie Thomas

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Re: Saved loads on a tank frame!
« Reply #34 on: February 05, 2017, 09:21:07 pm »
If you can weld first advert I came to on eBay £110 for the steel to make a frame that size and spec.  The grippa advert says it's made from British steel. British or not that will be made of mild steel lowest carbon content the more carbon content the harder to weld and high carbon steel is brittle used for tool making.