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sunshine windows

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Turning down add ons
« on: October 07, 2016, 03:58:31 pm »
Gutters, fascias, conservatory roofs etc....

I completely understand this if you're full to the brim with regular window cleaning, but for those of you who turn this type of work away, why?

We hit some of our best hourly rates with this type of work and can sometime hit a day's work of window money in half a day of cleaning extras.

I quite often calls from people who have a regular cleaner but want extra work doing.
To climb mount fuji you must first find a path
(Swindon, Wiltshire)

www.sunshinewindowcleaning.co.uk
www.sunshinesoftwashing.co.uk

8weekly

Re: Turning down add ons
« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2016, 04:31:07 pm »
Gutters, fascias, conservatory roofs etc....

I completely understand this if you're full to the brim with regular window cleaning, but for those of you who turn this type of work away, why?

We hit some of our best hourly rates with this type of work and can sometime hit a day's work of window money in half a day of cleaning extras.

I quite often calls from people who have a regular cleaner but want extra work doing.
You answered your own question. People turn them away because they're too busy with windows and they are hard work.

Arnold Palmer

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Re: Turning down add ons
« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2016, 04:32:54 pm »
Gutters, fascias, conservatory roofs etc....

I completely understand this if you're full to the brim with regular window cleaning, but for those of you who turn this type of work away, why?

We hit some of our best hourly rates with this type of work and can sometime hit a day's work of window money in half a day of cleaning extras.

I quite often calls from people who have a regular cleaner but want extra work doing.
You answered your own question. People turn them away because they're too busy with windows and they are hard work.

Also, to beat your window cleaning hourly rate you need to go in high. Much higher (usually) than the customer expects, easier said than done.
#aliens

Tosh

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Re: Turning down add ons
« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2016, 04:43:32 pm »
I did a solar panel clean in London earlier this year. 200 panels on a warehouse roof.

Got a couple of addons confirmed for them today worth £3K a year.
*A HISTORY OF THE UNIVERSE - THE SHORT STORY* 'Hydrogen is a light, odorless gas, which, given enough time, turns into people.'

8weekly

Re: Turning down add ons
« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2016, 04:55:18 pm »
I did a solar panel clean in London earlier this year. 200 panels on a warehouse roof.

Got a couple of addons confirmed for them today worth £3K a year.
As usual, giving it large!  Look forward to pictures of your van with some solar panels out of view.  ;D

Tosh

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Re: Turning down add ons
« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2016, 05:01:09 pm »
 ;D
*A HISTORY OF THE UNIVERSE - THE SHORT STORY* 'Hydrogen is a light, odorless gas, which, given enough time, turns into people.'

Dave Willis

Re: Turning down add ons
« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2016, 07:02:21 pm »
'Cos sometimes it's not all about the money! Gutters/fascias can be hard work and even dangerous. I try very hard to avoid them, cleaning windows is so much easier.I had one today, five s bends completely blocked, gutter vac wouldn't touch them, one section unclipped. Spent most of my time at the very top of a ladder, unfooted on my own.

sunshine windows

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Re: Turning down add ons
« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2016, 07:41:24 pm »
'Cos sometimes it's not all about the money! Gutters/fascias can be hard work and even dangerous. I try very hard to avoid them, cleaning windows is so much easier.I had one today, five s bends completely blocked, gutter vac wouldn't touch them, one section unclipped. Spent most of my time at the very top of a ladder, unfooted on my own.

Fair comment! I guess some people (even window cleaners) don't fancy ladder work above gutter level.
To climb mount fuji you must first find a path
(Swindon, Wiltshire)

www.sunshinewindowcleaning.co.uk
www.sunshinesoftwashing.co.uk

Nick Day

Re: Turning down add ons
« Reply #8 on: October 07, 2016, 08:00:20 pm »
Dave
We had a job last week with 9 blocked downpipes and horror of horrors, the builder had glued them all together!!10 minutes with the gutter clearer screw sorted them all ( no ladders).
Today we tested a 40 litre 1800 watt vac with 100" water lift (measured by us)... fantastic.
We also tested a new tool today we've developed for removing weeds combining vacuum and lifting tools, it lifted a weed that tools or vacuum alone wouldn't touch.
We know that game changing equipment will soon be available, we  know because we are using them.

Dave Willis

Re: Turning down add ons
« Reply #9 on: October 07, 2016, 08:17:29 pm »
Interesting. The problem was the gutter installers used screws twice as long as they need to be on every joint plus a very shallow s bend.
Like the sound of the 1800w vac.

Michael Peterson

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Re: Turning down add ons
« Reply #10 on: October 07, 2016, 08:31:52 pm »
I love this job earning a fortune for cleaning the same windows every month and only adding new windows in the same areas, i like to build the repeat business windows up rather than shouldet aching new stuff which i dont enjoy

Nick Day

Re: Turning down add ons
« Reply #11 on: October 07, 2016, 09:02:07 pm »
Good for you Michael.
I had an incredible commercial round in the 1980's, new Porshe 911's etc. I thought it would never end. It did.
As a simple example a Job I was doing for £16.00 per week is now (26 years later) being done for £5.00 per week.
Enjoy it while you've got it. I have no doubt the domestic scene is being closely watched.
I read lots of posts on here about incredible prices for window cleaning. I am sure I am not the only person to be reading these.
Henry Ford summed it up, you need to take a little money off a lot of people. The philosophy of taking a lot of money off a few people seldom lasts.

8weekly

Re: Turning down add ons
« Reply #12 on: October 07, 2016, 09:21:42 pm »
Good for you Michael.
I had an incredible commercial round in the 1980's, new Porshe 911's etc. I thought it would never end. It did.
As a simple example a Job I was doing for £16.00 per week is now (26 years later) being done for £5.00 per week.
Enjoy it while you've got it. I have no doubt the domestic scene is being closely watched.
I read lots of posts on here about incredible prices for window cleaning. I am sure I am not the only person to be reading these.
Henry Ford summed it up, you need to take a little money off a lot of people. The philosophy of taking a lot of money off a few people seldom lasts.
Hold on, a window cleaner takes a little off a lot whereas a gutter specialist takes a lot off a few. Relatively speaking.  And like window cleaning, all done from the safety of the ground.

Shrek

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Re: Turning down add ons
« Reply #13 on: October 07, 2016, 09:52:51 pm »
Good for you Michael.
I had an incredible commercial round in the 1980's, new Porshe 911's etc. I thought it would never end. It did.
As a simple example a Job I was doing for £16.00 per week is now (26 years later) being done for £5.00 per week.
Enjoy it while you've got it. I have no doubt the domestic scene is being closely watched.
I read lots of posts on here about incredible prices for window cleaning. I am sure I am not the only person to be reading these.
Henry Ford summed it up, you need to take a little money off a lot of people. The philosophy of taking a lot of money off a few people seldom lasts.

Closely watched by who and what for?
I wouldn't call ford much cheaper than any other  vehicles, and no matter how cheap it was , I'd still buy a bmw

Tosh

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Re: Turning down add ons
« Reply #14 on: October 07, 2016, 10:13:42 pm »
As a simple example a Job I was doing for £16.00 per week is now (26 years later) being done for £5.00 per week.

There's always going to be one example that goes against the grain. The majority of us are probably earning multiple times what we were 26 years ago.

In fact 26 years ago I was bringing home about £130 a week for a 45 hour week labouring for a landscaping company.
*A HISTORY OF THE UNIVERSE - THE SHORT STORY* 'Hydrogen is a light, odorless gas, which, given enough time, turns into people.'

Stoots

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Re: Turning down add ons
« Reply #15 on: October 07, 2016, 10:33:43 pm »
Well it might be because I'm too busy to fit it in or because I can't be arsed and have earned enough that day and would rather go home

Michael Peterson

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Re: Turning down add ons
« Reply #16 on: October 08, 2016, 10:17:10 am »
Im all domestic

Smurf

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Re: Turning down add ons
« Reply #17 on: October 08, 2016, 04:52:11 pm »
Gutters, fascias, conservatory roofs etc....

I completely understand this if you're full to the brim with regular window cleaning, but for those of you who turn this type of work away, why?

We hit some of our best hourly rates with this type of work and can sometime hit a day's work of window money in half a day of cleaning extras.

I quite often calls from people who have a regular cleaner but want extra work doing.


Now where have I heard that before? ....Oh I know me  ;D
Generally exterior property cleaning is more profitable than just cleaning windows but some don't want to know as can be harder work than waving a stick and splashing water about on glass. More often than not they don't have the right kit and experience either to take them on  ::)roll