[Smurf]

The question begs why would anyone want to use a much heavier and larger diameter type hose that would fit inside a wfp rather than using pole hose for a window cleaning pole?

...because in actual use the difference is hardly noticeable.

Surely it would defeat the object of buying and using lightweight wfp's if say using micro or minbore hose as pole hose espesially when used on accute angles and using longer poles

maybe you should get to the gym and get mans arms

we have home made tube less poles running just two inc tails (pole hose) then its straight inside with the micro boar , no nasty loops of pole hose , no need for crapy ball things and no need to cut your pole down nor pay out for needless rubbish

the only time the lads notice the weight is 5 storys and and higher here

Susan, maybe you should have a go at extending a long pole using microbore yourself. Then swap it over with pole hose to see which one you find is easier to use yourself weight wise.  Then do the same comparison with water flowing through both and wash a few windows with the pole fully extended.

I would be interested to hear your findings as is nothing to do with how strong you are but is down to good working practices, ergonomics and risk assessment of the process in hand.

As an employer you have a duty of care to your employees to help prevent strain and injury, RSI etc do you not?

what you think I haven't been and used this set up ? I try them all out and a was on the glass myself for 6 mouths using a slx35 as a daily pole  thanks , and I never ask anybody to do something a cant or can not do myself , don't think because I am a woman that I cant do it ,

 duty of care for employees hows that work then ? ok heres a light pole don't worrie about the twisted up mess of pole hose that wraps around you feet and will trip you up , 

That told me then ....I thought you may pull out the trip hazard card

[Susan Dean (1stclean)]

This is appalling that Steven has not replied to you on here, maybe like selling poles it's to much hassle.
I normally get a reply from him on Facebook.
Tony

He is skint, can't anyone tell? You don't stop selling poles because you can't be @rsed and stop making Aquadapters without having a replacement! Come on!

Ricky.

I bet your proper skint.

I am really surprised you have access to my online banking, knowing i am skint.
Don't be a child please.

All is good, and tubeless is very successful and very soon uni-valve to compliment it.

see steve this what makes you look foolish and stupid . your been pushing the uni val for so long we all don't belive any thing you say any more , you bite a comments on here s and get in to it with people ,

 the top guys i.e. alex never gets in to it on fourms , he always as a more sat on the fence say about things as he known what he says can and will stop people buying his stuff maybe you should try this.

[JackieW]

''see steve this what makes you look foolish and stupid . your been pushing the uni val for so long we all don't belive any thing you say any more , ''

Please don't presume to include me in the ''we all''.

[oliver collins]

Hi guys

Steven offers some unique products if you don't want to use them don't order from him !

If half of the people who use this forum are as professional as they claim they would not use a public forum to continually berate another business owner.

Problems with services or products should not be made for everybody to have their opinion aired.

If one of our customers had a problem with our service who would we want them to speak to first,the whole street  or us ?
 It really puts me off the whole forum and I don't know why the moderators don't remove posts that defame someone's reputation.
Oliver Collins rise n shine cleaning

[jonboywalton75]

It always  makes me cringe  when people  come on here and say they  think that G********s are the best  thing since sliced bread then instead  of emailing  the company  with every  minor  complaint,  they post them here.
G*******s are great  btw

[Bay View WCS]

Hi guys

Steven offers some unique products if you don't want to use them don't order from him !

If half of the people who use this forum are as professional as they claim they would not use a public forum to continually berate another business owner.

Problems with services or products should not be made for everybody to have their opinion aired.

If one of our customers had a problem with our service who would we want them to speak to first,the whole street  or us ?
 It really puts me off the whole forum and I don't know why the moderators don't remove posts that defame someone's reputation.
Oliver Collins rise n shine cleaning

I think that's a little naive tbh 

[oliver collins]

Not naive.
The truth is not liked by all
I can't help that

[Bay View WCS]

Not naive.
The truth is not liked by all
I can't help that

It depends which version of the truth is preferred.  I come to this forum precisely because of the opinions shared about the window cleaning industry.  You appear to state that anyone who does not like a particular product should take it up with the business direct and not share that here - I simply don't agree that that is constructive either for the window cleaner or for the seller/manufacturer.

I believe that I, along with other window cleaners, can differentiate from posts which are openly critical for the sake of it, from those which are airing real concerns for a poorly designed/constructed product.  I don't think that it is useful to hide all criticism under the guise of the risk that it may 'defame' a reputation; a reputation can only be enhanced where the concerns are handled, responded to and dealt with in a calm and professional manner.  Those 'critical' opinions offer an opportunity where both the manufacturer and the window cleaning community can all benefit.

Your comparison of customers with issues is also instructive - if a customer was delighted with your service would you prefer them to not tell anyone if asked? They should only tell you when they love your service?

The benefit of this forum is that we are able to give honest, albeit subjective, opinions.  To attempt to limit those opinions by the removal of posts by moderators is naive.

[jonboywalton75]

I think some posts have been deleted on this very thread😮

[Don Kee]

Hi guys

Steven offers some unique products if you don't want to use them don't order from him !

If half of the people who use this forum are as professional as they claim they would not use a public forum to continually berate another business owner.

Problems with services or products should not be made for everybody to have their opinion aired.

If one of our customers had a problem with our service who would we want them to speak to first,the whole street  or us ?
 It really puts me off the whole forum and I don't know why the moderators don't remove posts that defame someone's reputation.
Oliver Collins rise n shine cleaning

Dont usually get involved in these type of threads but thats balls...

How on earth can anyone in the world build up any sort of reputation (good or bad) if their customers cant talk about the service and products offered?

Its also a cleaning forum, initially created to help other cleaners with information and share opinions
So if one person says 'i need a pole but i need some recommendations, was thinking of pratpoles.com' but you know they're conartists, you'll just say 'they're great' anyway?

Remind me to never ask you for advice if i ever need it chap, wont have a clue if you mean it ir just dont want to hurt someones feelings...