[Tom-01]

I probably what have gone in at £275ish.

I take it there's two of you doing the job?

We don't do loads commercial work, the stuff we do have is well priced though. Others I have quoted I have been way off apparently. It just comes down to whether the job is worth it. We don't take on domestic work for peanuts so commercial is no different.

[8weekly]

I probably what have gone in at £275ish.

I take it there's two of you doing the job?

We don't do loads commercial work, the stuff we do have is well priced though. Others I have quoted I have been way off apparently. It just comes down to whether the job is worth it. We don't take on domestic work for peanuts so commercial is no different.

Same, but I want more because of the VAT issue. I can charge 20% but only pay 12 (I think) which would potentially balance out any loss on the domestic side. This was an unprompted incoming enquiry but I've just undertaken some telemarketing contract work so it was good to get some feedback.

Personally, because I always feel awkward, I don't like internal stuff and even more so around people working so I'd often in the past put in stupid prices because I didn't really want it. I've got to break the habit now though. Apart from anything else I won't be the one doing in in most cases.

[lal]

 With inside screens, £200 to £250ish, i did something similar to this some months back, and had to stand in the road to
 reach the top windows, the traffic was busy, so trying to work and dodge vehicles was an absolute P.I.T.A
 I wouldn't be in a hurry to do it again if I'm honest.

 Regards
 Lal

[Smurf]

With inside screens, £200 to £250ish, i did something similar to this some months back, and had to stand in the road to
 reach the top windows, the traffic was busy, so trying to work and dodge vehicles was an absolute P.I.T.A
 I wouldn't be in a hurry to do it again if I'm honest.

 Regards
 Lal

On busy roads like that's why most tops don't get done as is too much hassle for guy's especially when they can get easier work and not run the risk of getting hit by traffic no matter what time of day it is.

[NWH]

I'd do the outside very early in the morning ie no one about cars etc

[Tom-01]

I probably what have gone in at £275ish.

I take it there's two of you doing the job?

We don't do loads commercial work, the stuff we do have is well priced though. Others I have quoted I have been way off apparently. It just comes down to whether the job is worth it. We don't take on domestic work for peanuts so commercial is no different.

Same, but I want more because of the VAT issue. I can charge 20% but only pay 12 (I think) which would potentially balance out any loss on the domestic side. This was an unprompted incoming enquiry but I've just undertaken some telemarketing contract work so it was good to get some feedback.

Personally, because I always feel awkward, I don't like internal stuff and even more so around people working so I'd often in the past put in stupid prices because I didn't really want it. I've got to break the habit now though. Apart from anything else I won't be the one doing in in most cases.

That is correct. I'm in a similar boat, I looked at all the figures and worked things out having more commercial work. But by the time you pay the tax on the remaining 8%, plus the extra it costs to get VAT accounts done very three months, plus the extra costs of getting lots more work (another van, employee etc) it didn't really balance out. Plus the cashflow side of things - commercials tend to take a lot longer to pay but the VAT bill can't wait. Having multiple vans and staff isn't for me though, so it may be fine for you if thats the way you want to go.

Commercial work is a good earner, but you win big you lose big. A guy I know lost a contract worth £45k a year, was stressed out for ages. We wouldn't lose £45k of domestic work overnight - hopefully!

Who are you using for the telesales work? Any joy yet?

[NWH]

This is my view also when you go vat you have to be flying over he threshold not just knocking on the door of it,I think some go vat just so they can say I'm vat registered mate lol. Honestly if your doing near on that amount not being registered how much more do you need to earn to make the hassle worth it,I've looked into it and I reckoned you'd need to earn the same again to make it anywhere near worthwhile. When you go VAT window cleaning then becomes a proper job lol

[Tom-01]

This is my view also when you go vat you have to be flying over he threshold not just knocking on the door of it,I think some go vat just so they can say I'm vat registered mate lol. Honestly if your doing near on that amount not being registered how much more do you need to earn to make the hassle worth it,I've looked into it and I reckoned you'd need to earn the same again to make it anywhere near worthwhile. When you go VAT window cleaning then becomes a proper job lol

I agree. I did go quite a way over it so have a bill to pay at some point, luckily I have saved some money and only one van and one guy to pay (he's not employed). But, doing the sums its not worth it for me, unless I get a few vans up and running and staff - I don't want that, I don't want to be stuck in an office trying to schedule work and chase payments all day. To do what we have done money wise I need quite a lot extra a month to basically earn the same, and take someone else on and run another van, so to earn any profit on that I need an extra £3k a month to make it worthwhile financially. I'm trialling something a bit different at the moment and refining my business, basically pulling it apart and working a bit smarter. Its amazing how much money you can burn through without actually realising it.

[8weekly]

This is my view also when you go vat you have to be flying over he threshold not just knocking on the door of it,I think some go vat just so they can say I'm vat registered mate lol. Honestly if your doing near on that amount not being registered how much more do you need to earn to make the hassle worth it,I've looked into it and I reckoned you'd need to earn the same again to make it anywhere near worthwhile. When you go VAT window cleaning then becomes a proper job lol

I find it hard to believe that anyone would go VAT registered just to say they are - to boast in other words. It's a pain the backside to be honest but if you want multiple vans and also want to employ and pay a decent wage you have no choice. Hence trying to get more commercial work.

Regarding "knocking at the door", it's worked out ok here because I went limited at the beginning of the year and that set the VAT clock to zero giving me plenty of time to be trading well above the threshold month by month but not yet hitting the figure since the start of the business.

In my case, I'm 52 and have no pension and want to build a sizeable business to sustain me as I get older. Being self employed is great, but you don't want to get ill or you're stuffed.

Anyway, back on topic, I'm grateful for the feedback re: pricing. I reckon I overpriced that one by about £70 or so. Deep down I knew the correct figure was £250 but decided to say a day's work for one man and price it at about that.

[Rich Wilts]

You might get it Steve. In which, result!

[Tadgh O Shea]

waff 

you mean like this tadgh? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFsE0E_zcLg

Hi Crapinon, plenty of that interior work available and it pays better than exterior work if your working the high streets.

Tadgh, there aint to many High street stores here now. Many High Streets actually consist of Poundland stores , charity shops and cash converters.

  Hi Guys, just to harp on all this interior work that is available on the high streets, i will say it again its an area that is widely untapped and remember presentation is everything to conscientious retailers, its not practical to use trad on internal glass and mirror surfaces, most of these type surfaces are cleaned on a continuous basis with traditional based glass and mirror cleaners and the wrong cloths which just end up leaving problem smears and residues build up on the glass and mirrors, only solution is to clean them with water and good quality microfiber glass cloths, (okay i'm waiting for it but it dose not have to be little waffle glass cloths as long as you approach this work with good quality microfiber glass cloths) trust me this internal cleaning work can pay better than external work and if you work smart they will have you back on a monthly basis. just saying like. Tadgh

[Dave Willis]

You don't half waffle on.

[8weekly]

You don't half waffle on.

Yeah, but he's come clean and admitted it is doesn't have to be a waffle cloth. Pun intended.

[cgh window cleaning]

Cleaning internal commercial work like shops is nothing new and defiantly  not an untapped market its part of the service that commercial customers expect .I clean  internals weekly have in the past cleaned them daily.offices tend to be monthly or bi monthly.
The quickest  method for me has always been squeegee  and applicator  not once have I ever had a problem or a complaint about the finish.
Some shops I do are 100ft in length you would be there all day if you where to clean them with cloths.

[Tadgh O Shea]

You don't half waffle on.

Dave when waffing glass you can achieve superior results than using other methods, give it time as you will see lots more shiners waffing glass when working on internals. 

[Tadgh O Shea]

Cleaning internal commercial work like shops is nothing new and defiantly  not an untapped market its part of the service that commercial customers expect .I clean  internals weekly have in the past cleaned them daily.offices tend to be monthly or bi monthly.
The quickest  method for me has always been squeegee  and applicator  not once have I ever had a problem or a complaint about the finish.
Some shops I do are 100ft in length you would be there all day if you where to clean them with cloths.

  It is an area that is hugely untapped and there for the taking for guys who will ask, just saying there are plenty of internal glass and mirror surfaces in all different types of retailers where its not always practical to use trad.

[geoffreyspecht]

This is my view also when you go vat you have to be flying over he threshold not just knocking on the door of it,I think some go vat just so they can say I'm vat registered mate lol. Honestly if your doing near on that amount not being registered how much more do you need to earn to make the hassle worth it,I've looked into it and I reckoned you'd need to earn the same again to make it anywhere near worthwhile. When you go VAT window cleaning then becomes a proper job lol

I find it hard to believe that anyone would go VAT registered just to say they are - to boast in other words. It's a pain the backside to be honest but if you want multiple vans and also want to employ and pay a decent wage you have no choice. Hence trying to get more commercial work.

Regarding "knocking at the door", it's worked out ok here because I went limited at the beginning of the year and that set the VAT clock to zero giving me plenty of time to be trading well above the threshold month by month but not yet hitting the figure since the start of the business.

In my case, I'm 52 and have no pension and want to build a sizeable business to sustain me as I get older. Being self employed is great, but you don't want to get ill or you're stuffed.

Anyway, back on topic, I'm grateful for the feedback re: pricing. I reckon I overpriced that one by about £70 or so. Deep down I knew the correct figure was £250 but decided to say a day's work for one man and price it at about that.

more like £120 max

[8weekly]

This is my view also when you go vat you have to be flying over he threshold not just knocking on the door of it,I think some go vat just so they can say I'm vat registered mate lol. Honestly if your doing near on that amount not being registered how much more do you need to earn to make the hassle worth it,I've looked into it and I reckoned you'd need to earn the same again to make it anywhere near worthwhile. When you go VAT window cleaning then becomes a proper job lol

I find it hard to believe that anyone would go VAT registered just to say they are - to boast in other words. It's a pain the backside to be honest but if you want multiple vans and also want to employ and pay a decent wage you have no choice. Hence trying to get more commercial work.

Regarding "knocking at the door", it's worked out ok here because I went limited at the beginning of the year and that set the VAT clock to zero giving me plenty of time to be trading well above the threshold month by month but not yet hitting the figure since the start of the business.

In my case, I'm 52 and have no pension and want to build a sizeable business to sustain me as I get older. Being self employed is great, but you don't want to get ill or you're stuffed.

Anyway, back on topic, I'm grateful for the feedback re: pricing. I reckon I overpriced that one by about £70 or so. Deep down I knew the correct figure was £250 but decided to say a day's work for one man and price it at about that.

more like £120 max

I wouldn't do it for that.. Even when I started.

[geoffreyspecht]

This is my view also when you go vat you have to be flying over he threshold not just knocking on the door of it,I think some go vat just so they can say I'm vat registered mate lol. Honestly if your doing near on that amount not being registered how much more do you need to earn to make the hassle worth it,I've looked into it and I reckoned you'd need to earn the same again to make it anywhere near worthwhile. When you go VAT window cleaning then becomes a proper job lol

I find it hard to believe that anyone would go VAT registered just to say they are - to boast in other words. It's a pain the backside to be honest but if you want multiple vans and also want to employ and pay a decent wage you have no choice. Hence trying to get more commercial work.

Regarding "knocking at the door", it's worked out ok here because I went limited at the beginning of the year and that set the VAT clock to zero giving me plenty of time to be trading well above the threshold month by month but not yet hitting the figure since the start of the business.

In my case, I'm 52 and have no pension and want to build a sizeable business to sustain me as I get older. Being self employed is great, but you don't want to get ill or you're stuffed.

Anyway, back on topic, I'm grateful for the feedback re: pricing. I reckon I overpriced that one by about £70 or so. Deep down I knew the correct figure was £250 but decided to say a day's work for one man and price it at about that.

more like £120 max

I wouldn't do it for that.. Even when I started.

all i can say is their r a lot of lazy window cleaners on this site