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Amazin

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payload?
« on: April 16, 2015, 11:45:38 pm »
Is a van with payload of 965kg sufficient for carrying everything needed for window cleaning?  I think watertank alone can weight nearly a ton

Clever Forum Name

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Re: payload?
« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2015, 06:23:14 am »
Plastic water tanks can range from 25kg - 100kg depending on size of tank.

Dry professional systems can weigh between 100 - 200kg

Custom built tanks 20-40kg

All weights are dry.

Frames can weigh 10-30kg.

the king

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Re: payload?
« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2015, 06:43:14 am »
idely u need a van with a payload of 900kilo + realy like a transid connect hi top my advice would b go biger like swb vivaro haice expert custum ect as u can slap a big tank in any of them  if u go small u will probly end up having to upgrade van in 3 years as wrk load will inprove an ur payload will b maxed out with a small van :)

dazmond

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Re: payload?
« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2015, 08:22:57 am »
it just depends how big your tank is and if you have a helper.i have a transit connect T230(900kg payload)and a 500L tank and frame,reel,hose,leisure battery,pump,poles,trad gear/ladders etc and me.full to the brim in the morning i reckon im just under.obviously it gets lighter as the day goes on.

for a sole trader this set up is ideal IMO but if your planning on a bigger tank and a helper then you need a bigger van(transit/vivaro size)
price higher/work harder!

duncan h

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Re: payload?
« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2015, 08:32:17 am »
I would say 5000ltr, tank thats 500kg on its own. Don't run on the limit. I have transit T300 1300 kg. Loads of spare for kids and dogs. When tanks full. you can feel it swish etc

Amazin

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Re: payload?
« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2015, 11:15:11 pm »
lol I just reviewed my first post, I don't mean just the water tank on its own! I was just thinking, if I have a 700 litre water tank installed filled with pure water then it could weight as much as 800kg.  I weight about 95kg and wth few other tools and equippments, it could easily reach the maxium payload! Is it something to worry about? I'm assuming it will kill the engine faster

it just depends how big your tank is and if you have a helper.i have a transit connect T230(900kg payload)and a 500L tank and frame,reel,hose,leisure battery,pump,poles,trad gear/ladders etc and me.full to the brim in the morning i reckon im just under.obviously it gets lighter as the day goes on.

for a sole trader this set up is ideal IMO but if your planning on a bigger tank and a helper then you need a bigger van(transit/vivaro size)

Thank you so much for that. I was think get something like this:

http://www.gumtree.com/p/vans/ford-transit-swb-l-r-diesel-van-2005-55-very-low-mileage-only-50k-f-s-h-/1110767851

I hope thats sufficient?


CleanClear

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Re: payload?
« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2015, 11:18:37 pm »
I'm assuming it will kill the engine faster


Thats what you've got to be carefull about, heavy loads like WFP tanks are well known for killing engines.
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Jonny 87

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Re: payload?
« Reply #7 on: April 17, 2015, 11:29:19 pm »
I'm assuming it will kill the engine faster


Thats what you've got to be carefull about, heavy loads like WFP tanks are well known for killing engines.

I havnt heard that to be honest.

Aslong as your under the payload limit, and look after your vehicle (regular oil changes etc) then I don't think having a tank in the back will kill your engine. Bit More wear and tear, yes. But not kill it.

Obviously if you have a 650 tank in citroen nemo then that's another story. Lol
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Amazin

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Re: payload?
« Reply #8 on: April 18, 2015, 12:15:52 am »
I remember few weeks ago I went to see a Ford transit T280. The guy told me it can carry 3 tons of goods. I think they have a payload of 1200kg which is much better.

The bigger the engine then more fuel consumption I guess.

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Thats what you've got to be carefull about, heavy loads like WFP tanks are well known for killing engines.

oh well, what can we do about it? Just have to look after your vechicle I guess


Mike #1

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Re: payload?
« Reply #9 on: April 18, 2015, 06:25:47 am »
1,200 Kg is 1.2 tons i would love to see it with 3 ton or 3,000 kg in the back , A swb van is most likely no good to carry 750 tank in .

dazmond

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Re: payload?
« Reply #10 on: April 18, 2015, 02:16:02 pm »
I'm assuming it will kill the engine faster


Thats what you've got to be carefull about, heavy loads like WFP tanks are well known for killing engines.

van engines are designed to be worked hard with heavy loads.
price higher/work harder!

duncan h

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Re: payload?
« Reply #11 on: April 18, 2015, 06:26:39 pm »
I am on my own and use a 250 ltr tank. Bob home for lunch and top up. Only takes my tank half hour to fill. No strain on van in any way or form

the king

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Re: payload?
« Reply #12 on: April 18, 2015, 07:41:25 pm »
i would say its not so mch the engine u need to werry about its the suspension  thats the issue u will kill it if ur over the limit an if police stop u an find ur over waight u can get a fine an maby points not wrth it if u ask me ,my friend has a combo an he has fitted a 350l plus 3 ladders an 2 people its a combo 1700 so he is well over the limit his gear box has just gone wether its from the extra waight im not shore but his suspension is on its  ars first thing with a full load :o