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Simon Gerrard

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Re: Crystalizing encap dust, its always been there
« Reply #20 on: April 10, 2014, 09:21:56 pm »
Like I said I have portables, LM,encap and truck mounts. All of them do a good job in the appropriate circumstances and agree with your earlier post on this thread,
In my opinion, a cleaner should be familiar with all processes and be able to offer them all whether its extraction or LM with skill, experience of them and knowledge of the product. HWE is the only option sometimes, but not always and in some circumstances can be less effective than LM
 Indeed I think you will find I've said things almost identical many times in the past.
Btw, what is your name?

Simon

John Klucznik

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Re: Crystalizing encap dust, its always been there
« Reply #21 on: April 10, 2014, 09:31:31 pm »
" I don't understand the video, you say their product creates a dust when brushed across.

but should'nt  Encap solution detach  from the fibre when brushed? otherwise how does the encapsulated soil get removed?"

Thats a great question. You want to encap and you want it to release but not so easily that it can become airborne or de capsulate the soils.
In my opinion it should take a little more effort to remove the polymer. That is why I did the Surround and the electron microscope test to show how it comes off. Simon would like that one as it shows the lab report. http://bonnetpro.com/encapsulation/T2H_polymer.html


Simon I will throw this at you and if you answer yes I will concede but if your answer is no than you concede to my point of the video demonstration. Fair?

Did you apply the same standard or judgement when you saw the dry down test for a crystallizing polymer? Yes or No?

Did you say it needed a third party independent test? Yes or No?

Did you try it yourself? Yes or No?

If you judged their sales info the same as your judging my test then that's fair. If you required them in your opinion to do the dry down by a third party, then its fair. I would not think that you did. And if you conducted the test yourself, then you can do the same with mine as I exactly told what I did. To me you need third party when the average person cannot conduct the test themselves. Anyone can do this test so I feel third party is not needed. Even if the chems where applied a little heavy they where both applied at the same amount  down to fractions of an ounce, so it was equal. Some guys go light and some heavy with solution application especially with a gravity feed machine. so this example showed was happens in this light.

Let me know. Im sure you will. :)

John Klucznik

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Re: Crystalizing encap dust, its always been there
« Reply #22 on: April 10, 2014, 09:55:02 pm »
For what it is worth. I wrote this 2 or three years ago and nobody believed me. Im kinda glad I was attacked as it got me motivated to do this video. Now maybe I will redo it without all the direct finger pointing. I have never really done that before, I would mention a type of product but not the product or the company by name in ads at least not that I recall. But being called out by name that requires a different response. I have never went after Releasit by name because Rick doesn't cross the line. Steve did. Anyway thats all I have to say about it.

You might like this:  http://bonnetpro.com/encapsulation/T2H_polymer.html

stuart_clark

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Re: Crystalizing encap dust, its always been there
« Reply #23 on: April 10, 2014, 10:58:03 pm »
John
I must admit  like your mini max, I currently use a Chemspec Chemstractor and Rotabrite machine but will be looking for somthing else in the future, maybe your mini max ! How much do they cost and have you any plans to import any to the uk ?

Stuart

John Klucznik

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Re: Crystalizing encap dust, its always been there
« Reply #24 on: April 11, 2014, 01:04:58 am »
Hi Stuart.  I believe your 220 over there, not 110?

stuart_clark

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Re: Crystalizing encap dust, its always been there
« Reply #25 on: April 11, 2014, 07:56:29 am »
Yes thats night, 240 actualy

saying that I do have a 110v transformer as some jobs request 110 only

John Klucznik

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Re: Crystalizing encap dust, its always been there
« Reply #26 on: April 11, 2014, 03:36:40 pm »
Hi Stuart,

I am working on a newer model. If that one takes off it may be worth Johns time to bring them in. I currently dont make a 220 and without a local distributor it might not be in your best interest should you need a replacement part due to time and shipping cost. I hate to turn away someone but I want my stuff to be a great fit for the people that invest in it and because of our distance apart Im concerned.

stuart_clark

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Re: Crystalizing encap dust, its always been there
« Reply #27 on: April 11, 2014, 05:18:10 pm »
Cheers John