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steve prince

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Re: Ask Me A Question - Simon Gerrard
« Reply #20 on: March 19, 2014, 05:22:27 pm »
Morning Steve,
Yes, you can do that if you wish, but it may  also be of help to others on the forum so could we at least touch on it on here and if needs be you can call me?
If you don't want to discuss on the forum that is fine.
Simon
Hi Simon
I would put it on here but there is local competition that could read this and I don't want anyone knowing just yet  ;)

clive ware

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Re: Ask Me A Question - Simon Gerrard
« Reply #21 on: March 19, 2014, 06:38:52 pm »
Simon,
What's the capital of Australia?

Simon Gerrard

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Re: Ask Me A Question - Simon Gerrard
« Reply #22 on: March 19, 2014, 06:52:43 pm »
Hi Simon
I know you are a good family man. How have you balanced business and family and been successful.
David

Hi Dave,
It has never really been a problem. We are a very close family and the benefits of working away quite a lot and building the business at home have come to us all in equal measure. We've always lived in nice houses, been on holidays to faraway places and put three of my children through university and still had time to enjoy the family. You do have to be careful that you get the work / life balance right, but providing for my family has always been a constant pleasure and I think that is all that really matters.

Simon

Simon Gerrard

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Re: Ask Me A Question - Simon Gerrard
« Reply #23 on: March 19, 2014, 07:10:37 pm »
How do you target light commercial and domestic in 2014.
Hi Mark,

One approach to generating business leads is to identify fifty or so local businesses in your area that fit the type and size of work that you, and more importantly those your equipment can cope with. Pubs, Clubs, Restaurants, Hotels, Care Homes etc. Instead of contacting every pub, night club and care home, make a list of fifty targets within each sector and concentrate on one sector at a time. Now ring each one – but don’t make it a sales call.
Inevitably you will get people who say they aren’t interested, fine, cross them off your list. For those you can engage in conversation ask the following:
Q. Do you get your carpets cleaned on a regular basis? If, ‘Yes.’
Q .How often do you get them cleaned? If the answer every year (or whatever)
Q. When were they last cleaned? Answer; ‘six months ago.’
Q. Would you mind if I gave you a call in five months just before they are due to be cleaned again so we give you quote? If they say, ‘Yes,’ you’ve just got what is known as a qualified lead, qualified in that they have agreed to let you ring them back in five months’ time. You now put that date into your diary and make sure you ring them back, trust me, they will be impressed.

You then move onto the next target and repeat the process remembering to delete the No’s and then replace them with new targets, so you always have a list of fifty. Over a period of time your diary should begin to be populated with call backs and because of the approach you have taken, seeking information rather than seeking a sale, you’re far more likely to generate sales. It is also high likely that you will have contacted them at exactly the right moment and may invite you to quote.
Another way of using this technique is to send out a mailshot to your target 50 and then a few days later follow up with a phone call. Persistence is the key here and being focused on exactly the kind of market you are capable of serving.

Hope this helps

Simon

Neil Jones

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Re: Ask Me A Question - Simon Gerrard
« Reply #24 on: March 19, 2014, 08:28:44 pm »
Interesting to read Simon, thanks.
@Steve Prince, share and share alike, stop being greedy :)

Simon Gerrard

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Re: Ask Me A Question - Simon Gerrard
« Reply #25 on: March 19, 2014, 08:36:24 pm »
Hi Mark,
To answer the second part of your question:
What’s your price point strategy for domestics in an increasingly competitive market?


Competition – what competition?
I cannot remember the last time I took any notice of what my competitors were doing because they are an irrelevance to me and I’d suggest to everyone else.
Before you think I’ve gone mad, let me explain.
When I first started I had a tiny portable machine  and so did others around me who bought the same or similar and soon there was ‘competition’ to consider. No one actually knew what they were doing, there were no training courses, no forums, you just went out and following the basic instructions that came with the machine and hey presto, you were a carpet cleaner. Dye Bleed, Shrinkage and massive drying times soon resulted in complaints, re-cleans, refunds and utter frustration. Meanwhile, if one guy was charging £x for a lounge carpet the rest would all go cheaper and so we competed on price because we all scared ourselves into believing that if we didn't put in a lower price than the next guy he would get all the business....wrong!!

I decided there had to be a better way and by now training courses had become available and I booked myself onto a Prochem training course in London and 2 days later went home with a complete set of new, more powerful, more professional equipment and thanks to Ron Tilley’s inspirational approach and his 12 step cleaning process, with a new, professional attitude to carpet cleaning. From now on, I decided my competitors would have to compete with me on quality, because that is actually what carpet cleaning is about.

So I stopped quoting over the phone and went out and surveyed every job in advance and found that even though I had doubled my prices I got nearly every job. And, even more importantly, found that because I was delivering quality my customers started recommending me, which multiplied the number of customers I had. Bingo!
All on the back of price???? No way, on the back of quality at the right price.

So forget get the word competition, it is a distraction, an irrelevance and just by thinking about the competition means you aren’t thinking about the only thing that really does matter and that is making certain that what you do for your customers today, tomorrow and next year is first rate, despite the price you charge, (which by the way should be your price and not one imposed upon you by a competitors pricing) then they will consider you their carpet cleaner, the guy they go to every time they want their carpet cleaned because he does a great job at a value for money price– bingo!

That is not to say that you don't have to be competitive, but you can blunt the price for price comparisons your customers make by making your offering in some way different to your competitors, so that the price of what your offering can't be directly compared to that of your competitor. In my early days I did this by offering a 12 step process when the rest hadn't even thought of a process, so what I was offering was different, unique and therefore couldn't be compared directly in price terms because there was the perception by the customer that they were paying a little more but were getting much better value for their money.
So in the end it comes down to being in some way or other distinct, different, unique and instead of standing in the crowd - stand out of the crowd!!!
Sorry if it’s a bit long.

Simon

jim mca

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Re: Ask Me A Question - Simon Gerrard
« Reply #26 on: March 19, 2014, 08:41:46 pm »
Simon

Thanks for giving some fantastic advice your target list is how I worked in sales for 2 years and never thought of putting into my business hope to see you at TACCA day this year enjoyed speaking to you last year

Cheers

Len Gribble

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Re: Ask Me A Question - Simon Gerrard
« Reply #27 on: March 19, 2014, 09:57:22 pm »
Tom of all gleaming now has a sprinter ;)
Always bear in mind that your own resolution to succeed is more important than any other. (Sidcup Kent)

Emil Dinev

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Re: Ask Me A Question - Simon Gerrard
« Reply #28 on: March 20, 2014, 06:55:57 am »
Simon, thanks for a fantastic thread and thanks everyone for the questions. Here is my one. When did you recognise the need for employing people? Surely the goal of being in business is to do business and free up some time to spend doing what you like to do while others work for you. Many of us though are one man band and making the shift is all but easy. How did you cope with managing people?


Simon Gerrard

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Re: Ask Me A Question - Simon Gerrard
« Reply #29 on: March 20, 2014, 07:45:59 am »
Good morning Emil,


Managing people is easy.
They have to know who is the boss.
The boss on the other hand has to know that he can't do this job without the people who work for him and so treating them with respect and making them feeling valued and appreciated on both an individual and team basis is imperative, so that getting the job done, on time, on quality becomes a matter of pride for all.
You also have to earn the respect of the people that work for you if you ever want to get the best out of them.

Simon

*Hector*

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Re: Ask Me A Question - Simon Gerrard
« Reply #30 on: March 20, 2014, 09:08:24 am »
What have you done with Jim Neal??

last he was seen was working on the cruise ship with you last year??

 :o :o :o
Everyday this forum slips further from God.  :'(

Raymondo

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Re: Ask Me A Question - Simon Gerrard
« Reply #31 on: March 20, 2014, 04:23:58 pm »
Hi Simon

You use a Renault master van how do you get on with weight of the titan and what the van will carry.

We have a spitfire 3.2 in a LWB transit 3.5t even with a small machine in the weight can be an issue.

You said the titan uses 11 litres and hour so you have to carry more fuel our tank hold about 35 litres that last us a few days but with the titan that 4 hours so a larger fuel tank more weight,

You also carry more hose which again is more weight.

We used to also have a rascal sat in the crumple zone at the front I would not have liked a massive TM just behind the seats.

Great little vans.

Simon Gerrard

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Re: Ask Me A Question - Simon Gerrard
« Reply #32 on: March 20, 2014, 05:58:34 pm »
Hi Raymondo,

Weight isn't an issue, even fully loaded it is under the 3.5 ton limit. (just)

We only carry what equipment we need for a particular job and all tanks are empty when driving long distances.
We use a 110 litre lpg tank on the Titan, plus 22 litres of petrol so can give us between 10 and 13 running hours depending on what configuration we are using it in.
The Titan is fitted down with massive stainless steel bolts which seem to satisfy our insurers.

Simon

Simon Gerrard

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Re: Ask Me A Question - Simon Gerrard New
« Reply #33 on: March 23, 2014, 08:30:54 am »
Morning Steve,
Yes, you can do that if you wish, but it may  also be of help to others on the forum so could we at least touch on it on here and if needs be you can call me?
If you don't want to discuss on the forum that is fine.
Simon
Hi Simon
I would put it on here but there is local competition that could read this and I don't want anyone knowing just yet  ;)
Steve,
You can email me if you wish, as can anyone else.
Simon@gerrardscarpetcleaners.co.uk