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Ben wood

Re: new pole clx or grafter
« Reply #20 on: February 28, 2014, 07:41:56 am »
I have just bought a grafter 24ft as my clx was dead. I only got it as a supplier is a 20 min drive away. To be honest I quite like the pole and have to say the brush has a far better cleaning than any gardiner brush I have used.

Alex Gardiner

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Re: new pole clx or grafter
« Reply #21 on: February 28, 2014, 07:47:50 am »
Just to clarify...

The CLX pole can come apart if needed despite having joint-stops fitted. If it is a pre Smart-Clamp pole then you would need to undo and remove the lever arm, hold the clamp jaws apart with your thumb and then slide the section out as needed. If it is a Smart-Clamp fitted pole then you would only need to undo the bolt adjuster by a few turns and then slide the section out if needed.

jjames

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Re: new pole clx or grafter
« Reply #22 on: February 28, 2014, 10:43:58 am »
Hi woods cleaning, do you find the grafter much heavier than the clx. Cheers

robert mitchell

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Re: new pole clx or grafter
« Reply #23 on: February 28, 2014, 10:49:22 am »
jeez, clx or grafter?, and the masses as usual shout SLX ! :D
No experience or opinion on grafter, BUT regardless of which gardiners, go for one for the simple reason of versatility with the quick lock, change brushes, jets, goose necks etc. with ease, quick and easy versatility with one pole  ;)

+1

I have both and I use both.

The advantage of the grafter is you use as many or little sections as needed. It's a no nonsense straight forwards pole but a bit bendy at height and what ever is said on here, Ionics after sales service, like Gardiners, is really excellent for advice and problems.

The clx is a bit lighter and better at height as it's less bendy but it doesn't come apart so when doing lower work, you have to use all the sections.

If you can afford both, buy both, but if are a bit short on cash, buy the clx.

I agree about the customer service , very very good .

My grafter kept breaking clamps and actually lost me jobs when i started out , they eventually sent me a glyder 40 which at the time was double the price of my pole .

Not sure what was going on with the clamps but they were awful.

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trippyboy

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Re: new pole clx or grafter
« Reply #24 on: February 28, 2014, 01:13:50 pm »
Neither,get the SLX

Ben wood

Re: new pole clx or grafter
« Reply #25 on: February 28, 2014, 01:59:46 pm »
Not much but at these weights if it's too heavily then go get a office job lol

Pro-Poler

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Re: new pole clx or grafter
« Reply #26 on: February 28, 2014, 04:08:42 pm »
Only 160 grams difference in weight between clx and slx I believe? So put an extreme brush on the end of it and the weight difference matters little. However CLX been out of stock for ages.

rosskesava

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Re: new pole clx or grafter
« Reply #27 on: February 28, 2014, 04:14:49 pm »
I agree about the customer service , very very good .

My grafter kept breaking clamps and actually lost me jobs when i started out , they eventually sent me a glyder 40 which at the time was double the price of my pole .

Not sure what was going on with the clamps but they were awful.



Those original clamps were badly designed and made. There's an ionics supplier 10 minutes from me and on about my tenth or so visit for yet another broken clamp, he changed it for a brand new pole.

Since then, no problems at all.

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Pro-Poler

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Re: new pole clx or grafter
« Reply #28 on: February 28, 2014, 04:41:44 pm »
SLX £238.80, CLX £151.20, weight difference 160 gram, as for longevity if you look after the hybrid then no problem. I could see the benefit if there was a huge difference or you are a rich window cleaner who's got nothing better to do with his money. I'd sooner spend the saved money on a few brushes. 

mufcglen

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Re: new pole clx or grafter
« Reply #29 on: February 28, 2014, 05:14:29 pm »
hi guys im reading this with interest as my clx22 has been great the last week ive used it but fully extended its got a bit of a wobble to it which ive found can help when scrubbing but when some of you guys are going on about the weight difference which doesnt sound much but is the slx much stiffer when extended than the clx?

Mike #1

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Re: new pole clx or grafter
« Reply #30 on: March 01, 2014, 01:54:21 pm »
Cant comment specifically comment on the CLX but i top quality carbon  pole as the SLX against a Hybrid pole like the CLX .

Then their is a vast difference in rigidity when extended used Carbon poles for over 2 years now and the difference is almost beyond comparison to a Hybrid .

But the SLX is the best in terms of the whole design and build coupled with a Gardiners resi-neck and Xtreme brush it simply cant be beat. Mike

mufcglen

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Re: new pole clx or grafter
« Reply #31 on: March 01, 2014, 02:16:58 pm »
what would you guys say are better out of the slx and the phoenix x, the slx works out cheaper for the price and you get a neck and brush with that as opposed to just pole but wondered what you guys who have used both think?