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kempy

  • Posts: 1442
Re: ionics,any good?
« Reply #20 on: November 29, 2013, 09:58:27 pm »
A steel frame with a plastic water tank . Simple , can't be much variation I'm sure  it will be spot on

David Kent @ KentKleen

  • Posts: 1712
Re: ionics,any good?
« Reply #21 on: November 29, 2013, 10:01:14 pm »
is that a wyevale kempy?

AuRavelling79

  • Posts: 25994
Re: ionics,any good?
« Reply #22 on: November 29, 2013, 10:13:00 pm »
Can someone tell me what wyevale tanks are please?

He means Wyedale.
It's a game of three halves!

David Kent @ KentKleen

  • Posts: 1712
Re: ionics,any good?
« Reply #23 on: November 29, 2013, 10:16:23 pm »
I know what they are! I have 5 of them. Are they baffled or how can i tell they are baffled?
  ;D

windowswashed

  • Posts: 2606
Re: ionics,any good?
« Reply #24 on: November 29, 2013, 10:38:56 pm »
When I first started I bought gardiners hose reels, they IMO are garbage absolutely naff putting it politely. Bought an ionics reel so much better, better to reel in, sturdier, better constructed, etc, lasted me 9 years until two short welds snapped  which I rewelded the entire length of brackets so now they are indestructible as 'Im a qualified non destructive test welder from previous employment, but considering I have 100m of microbore and 100m of minibore on that's not bad cause of excessive hose so I don't need to move my van as much whilst working some days. Same with ionics pole racks and a few other things, all expensive but last longer so better value in the long run.

When I first started Ionics were bloody expensive and known as OTT nicknamed Over The Top and they were far pricier than other competitors because their sales staff were on good commission judging by their job vacancy ads. I bought the ionics carbon 45 ft pole as my first pole to help me with my second commercial job and this pole was the sturdiest pole on the market at the time, very rigid and built to last. Compare these poles to the likes of facelift (phoenix I think they're called now) and gardiners which reduced the carbon wall thickness, thus reducing the weight and costs they don't last half the time but do come close for rigidity now with the extreme equivalent versions.

robert mitchell

  • Posts: 1999
Re: ionics,any good?
« Reply #25 on: November 29, 2013, 10:45:38 pm »
my first ionics pole was useless , heavy , bendy , clamps kept breaking every time it was used , they did replace it free of charge with a full carbon pole which i still have for the odd high job but its not a patch on gardeners poles .

I use the gardeners hose reel and find it very good and only £50 quid so a disposable item really .

My ionics reel is very sturdy but very heavy , i lift in and out a lot through the day so prefer the lighter weight .


there customer service is very good though .

i believe the best tank/frame out there is the gardeners/grippamax , behaves like a solid load and  barely notice its there when your driving .
www.ishinewindowcleaning.co.uk

The man who never made a mistake never made anything.

Pete Thompson

  • Posts: 971
Re: ionics,any good?
« Reply #26 on: November 29, 2013, 10:53:00 pm »
Pure2o all the way.

It might be ionic's "budget" range, but IMO pure2o machines are still better than pure freedom, brodex etc, I looked at them all before I bought one.

A friend of mine recently bought a 2nd hand pure2o tank and frame from Rob ^^ up there (which she is very happy with Rob), and ionics installed it into her van with a new pump, new resin bottles etc.  I had no hesitation in recommending pure2o to her because I knew the build quality was top-notch.

As for baffling of these black tanks, I asked about that when I purchased my system and patrick sent me some photos of one of the tanks mid-build, showing the baffling and it was very good.  I'll see if I can find them.

PoleKing

  • Posts: 8974
Re: ionics,any good?
« Reply #27 on: November 29, 2013, 11:01:03 pm »
When I first started I bought gardiners hose reels, they IMO are garbage absolutely naff putting it politely. Bought an ionics reel so much better, better to reel in, sturdier, better constructed, etc, lasted me 9 years until two short welds snapped  which I rewelded the entire length of brackets so now they are indestructible as 'Im a qualified non destructive test welder from previous employment, but considering I have 100m of microbore and 100m of minibore on that's not bad cause of excessive hose so I don't need to move my van as much whilst working some days. Same with ionics pole racks and a few other things, all expensive but last longer so better value in the long run.

When I first started Ionics were bloody expensive and known as OTT nicknamed Over The Top and they were far pricier than other competitors because their sales staff were on good commission judging by their job vacancy ads. I bought the ionics carbon 45 ft pole as my first pole to help me with my second commercial job and this pole was the sturdiest pole on the market at the time, very rigid and built to last. Compare these poles to the likes of facelift (phoenix I think they're called now) and gardiners which reduced the carbon wall thickness, thus reducing the weight and costs they don't last half the time but do come close for rigidity now with the extreme equivalent versions.

It wasn't a nickname.
OTT was what ionic were called.
Before they did WFP they did abseiling and literally went...over the top.
Ionic poles are great.
Their swift 45+ is unsurpassed in quality IMO.
www.LanesWindowCleaning.com

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robert mitchell

  • Posts: 1999
Re: ionics,any good?
« Reply #28 on: November 29, 2013, 11:06:44 pm »
Glad she is happy with it , good quality and built to last .

i have sorted the few teething problems i had with my grippa system and its all good now , very low centre of gravity and well baffled so drives very well.

pure2o/ionics and grippa are the only systems on the market that i would buy at the moment .


Darren , not tried the swift but the grafter and the glider(full carbon) i have tried have both been next to useless - too bendy and heavy.

www.ishinewindowcleaning.co.uk

The man who never made a mistake never made anything.

PoleKing

  • Posts: 8974
Re: ionics,any good?
« Reply #29 on: November 29, 2013, 11:09:24 pm »
Glad she is happy with it , good quality and built to last .

i have sorted the few teething problems i had with my grippa system and its all good now , very low centre of gravity and well baffled so drives very well.

pure2o/ionics and grippa are the only systems on the market that i would buy at the moment .


Darren , not tried the swift but the grafter and the glider(full carbon) i have tried have both been next to useless - too bendy and heavy.



Couldn't agree more.
Grafter is only marginally better than a Brodex ally pole.
Glyder, not a bad pole for the first week IMO.
The swift is something else though. Superb pole.
(Sorry Alex) but better than my 47 extreme IMHO.
www.LanesWindowCleaning.com

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Pete Thompson

  • Posts: 971
Re: ionics,any good?
« Reply #30 on: November 29, 2013, 11:27:48 pm »
Here's the pic of the baffling in the ionic tank.

Mine's a 400 litre tank, and I've never noticed any "sway" in the van, front-to-back or side-to-side.


robert mitchell

  • Posts: 1999
Re: ionics,any good?
« Reply #31 on: November 29, 2013, 11:36:53 pm »
Those baffles look pretty good to me .
www.ishinewindowcleaning.co.uk

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dannymack

  • Posts: 1624
Re: ionics,any good?
« Reply #32 on: November 30, 2013, 07:59:10 am »
Pete you sure that's not a book shelf pmsl !!! 👳👳👳

andyM

  • Posts: 6100
Re: ionics,any good?
« Reply #33 on: November 30, 2013, 08:08:56 am »
Pete you sure that's not a book shelf pmsl !!!

 ;D ;D ;D
One of the Plebs

Pro-Smart

  • Posts: 134
Re: ionics,any good?
« Reply #34 on: November 30, 2013, 10:01:10 am »
are ionics tanks n stystems any good? looking at them for a new set up and wondered if you guys had any views-also are the tanks baffled?

Hi Kev,

I started 2 years ago and after some research I went for an Ionics PRO6 600 litre system fitted into a SWB Scenic.

Yes, it was at the top end of the price scale but I managed to get a pretty good deal by negotiating a package price including waterproofing, pole rack, poles, s/steel hose reel etc...

So, 2 years on and I found it to be really reliable - hardly use the DI filter as I get 2ppm after RO with 270ppm going in! Only thing to go wrong is once the float valve sensor failed and resulted in a small flood! The system looks very impressive when anyone, including prospective customers look inside. The s/steel hose reel is really rugged and would recommend any time. The poles were okay but I've replaced my Grafter with a Gardiners SLX 30 (brilliant!) - still using the Ionics Swift which very light and stiff. The 600l tank is baffled and I don't feel it at all as I corner on 2 wheels!  After sales service has been very good.

I'm not that into DIY stuff, although I can change a 3-pin plug  ;D, therefore I wanted a system that will last and last and not keep causing me problems with expensive downtime. Have also added p/washing to the business in the last year and used that same philosophy when I bought the kit for that too...

Cheers, Kev

PoleKing

  • Posts: 8974
Re: ionics,any good?
« Reply #35 on: December 01, 2013, 05:42:07 pm »
are ionics tanks n stystems any good? looking at them for a new set up and wondered if you guys had any views-also are the tanks baffled?

Hi Kev,

I started 2 years ago and after some research I went for an Ionics PRO6 600 litre system fitted into a SWB Scenic.

Yes, it was at the top end of the price scale but I managed to get a pretty good deal by negotiating a package price including waterproofing, pole rack, poles, s/steel hose reel etc...

So, 2 years on and I found it to be really reliable - hardly use the DI filter as I get 2ppm after RO with 270ppm going in! Only thing to go wrong is once the float valve sensor failed and resulted in a small flood! The system looks very impressive when anyone, including prospective customers look inside. The s/steel hose reel is really rugged and would recommend any time. The poles were okay but I've replaced my Grafter with a Gardiners SLX 30 (brilliant!) - still using the Ionics Swift which very light and stiff. The 600l tank is baffled and I don't feel it at all as I corner on 2 wheels!  After sales service has been very good.

I'm not that into DIY stuff, although I can change a 3-pin plug  ;D, therefore I wanted a system that will last and last and not keep causing me problems with expensive downtime. Have also added p/washing to the business in the last year and used that same philosophy when I bought the kit for that too...

Cheers, Kev

A SWB scenic? As in Renault scenic people carrier?!
Surely not?
www.LanesWindowCleaning.com

It's just the internet. Try not to worry.

Pro-Smart

  • Posts: 134
Re: ionics,any good?
« Reply #36 on: December 01, 2013, 07:10:05 pm »
are ionics tanks n stystems any good? looking at them for a new set up and wondered if you guys had any views-also are the tanks baffled?

Hi Kev,

I started 2 years ago and after some research I went for an Ionics PRO6 600 litre system fitted into a SWB Scenic.

Yes, it was at the top end of the price scale but I managed to get a pretty good deal by negotiating a package price including waterproofing, pole rack, poles, s/steel hose reel etc...

So, 2 years on and I found it to be really reliable - hardly use the DI filter as I get 2ppm after RO with 270ppm going in! Only thing to go wrong is once the float valve sensor failed and resulted in a small flood! The system looks very impressive when anyone, including prospective customers look inside. The s/steel hose reel is really rugged and would recommend any time. The poles were okay but I've replaced my Grafter with a Gardiners SLX 30 (brilliant!) - still using the Ionics Swift which very light and stiff. The 600l tank is baffled and I don't feel it at all as I corner on 2 wheels!  After sales service has been very good.

I'm not that into DIY stuff, although I can change a 3-pin plug  ;D, therefore I wanted a system that will last and last and not keep causing me problems with expensive downtime. Have also added p/washing to the business in the last year and used that same philosophy when I bought the kit for that too...

Cheers, Kev

A SWB scenic? As in Renault scenic people carrier?!
Surely not?

Oops - I meant Trafic! It must've been the sun roof that reminded me of the scenic!!!!  ;D