[Ian101]

biggest threat is me not getting my backside out early enough in the morning 

[Dave Mills]

We can do our bit to help prevent another recession. Whenever anyone asks me how business is I always say i'm flat out or couldn't be better. This leaves people thinking that things are not all doom and gloom. If we start talking the economy etc. down it will spread and before we know it we'll be in a triple dip.

Too right.

All a recession is is everyone putting on hold a little bit of spending.  Once people hear that jobs are at risk they don't buy the new car or the new TV or buy the new insurance policy or meal out.  Enough people do that and you have a drop in demand and a recession.

Its all in the mind of millions of people.

Im with you. Be positive.  Do it anyway as people like happy people and avoid moaners (I do, why would anyone else be different?)

[Stephen.C]

The biggest threat to me is none payment of work.
also heath as none of us know what's around the corner.
then the very real threat of the new eastern Europeans coming from Bulgaria and Romania.
The poorest countries in European union, a council official told me on my round from enquiries made to companies in the county
of Hampshire in order to make provisions how many new employees are they expected to take on over the year and the figure is terrifying. she would not tell what number or what companies but basically this will push more of the indigenous population out of work and possibly in to our line of work.

[BVC]

Fractional reserve banking.
Quantative easing.
Fiat currency.

Time to wake up fellas!

[Pro-Poler]

What's this good news on the ecocomy then?

See: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-24799507 Come on, keep up  

Keep up with what? , reports like this were highlighted by another ill informed window cleaner on another site a few years back , independent financial experts all agree household budgets are to be further stretched for years to come, wages have been cut or frozen, cost of living has risen between 20 and 30%, these increases in output are just numerical stats which cloud reality, fact is we'd couldn't get any lower economically so there have been blips at times and growth has shown small increases at times but any benefits are not trickling down to families and making their lives easier. Half of all families are living in poverty, energy bills have reached extortionate levels whilst the utility companies further profits, petrol and diesel at all time high, food prices have increased by 30% in the last 5 years and we have a million under 25s without a job all this in the 5th richest economy in the world, my advice start looking for millionaire customers because household budgets are feeling the pinch and the first things to go are luxurys yes and that includes window cleaning  

You're missing the point of my original post. I said that the economy is picking up - which it is - but that families don't feel it - which they don't, hence I disagreeertion that all this banging on about the cost of living could be a threat to our business. Statistics show that business (albeit big business) is picking up nicely - house builders, Primark, the utility companies, the list is endless. Stats also show that people are feeling no benefit from this pick up.

Mind you, can you show me a piece of acknowledged statistical evidence to back up your statement that "half of all families are living in poverty". Many are hard up, but many are not - from my own circle of family and friends I know of no-one who is even close to struggling.

I'm afraid the 1950s disappeared long ago, the definition of poverty has changed, I think I heard that if you spend more than 20% of your income on energy you are classed as being in fuel poverty, another thing that has changed is attitudes towards holidays they are now classed as a necessity, I lost a customer today reason given "energy rises", this was a privately owned house with both people working, trouble is people do listen to the news and I can just imagine the conversation in that house, "How can we save money? Mmmmm, window cleaner will have to go then", warning to all don't get complacent, window cleaning is not immune to the economic turmoil.

[Tom White]

Plagues of Romanian window cleaners that are about to hit our shores and take all our work.

Just like all the Kosovans and Polish did.

[Dave Mills]

I'm afraid the 1950s disappeared long ago, the definition of poverty has changed, I think I heard that if you spend more than 20% of your income on energy you are classed as being in fuel poverty, another thing that has changed is attitudes towards holidays they are now classed as a necessity, I lost a customer today reason given "energy rises", this was a privately owned house with both people working, trouble is people do listen to the news and I can just imagine the conversation in that house, "How can we save money? Mmmmm, window cleaner will have to go then", warning to all don't get complacent, window cleaning is not immune to the economic turmoil.

As you clearly cant read, heres the facts again about poverty.  Not "I think I heard". Facts.

 The percentage of individuals in relative low income, Before Housing Costs
(BHC), was 16 per cent. This is unchanged from 2010/11 and continues the
lowest level since the 1980s. Levels remained static because, in the main, real
incomes for households near the bottom of the income distribution fell by roughly
the same rate as real incomes for households at the average.


In 2011/12, the percentage of individuals in absolute low income,
measured against the 2010/11 baseline, was 17 per cent BHC, which is one percentage
point, or 900,000 people, higher than in 2010/11. As incomes across the
distribution grew by less than RPI inflation in 2011/12, and the absolute low-
income threshold was uprated by RPI inflation, the population falling into
absolute low income rose.

ONS: https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/206850/first_release_1112.pdf


Another fact: youll spout more b***ocks about how "its not like that".

[Pro-Poler]

I'm afraid the 1950s disappeared long ago, the definition of poverty has changed, I think I heard that if you spend more than 20% of your income on energy you are classed as being in fuel poverty, another thing that has changed is attitudes towards holidays they are now classed as a necessity, I lost a customer today reason given "energy rises", this was a privately owned house with both people working, trouble is people do listen to the news and I can just imagine the conversation in that house, "How can we save money? Mmmmm, window cleaner will have to go then", warning to all don't get complacent, window cleaning is not immune to the economic turmoil.

As you clearly cant read, heres the facts again about poverty.  Not "I think I heard". Facts.

 The percentage of individuals in relative low income, Before Housing Costs
(BHC), was 16 per cent. This is unchanged from 2010/11 and continues the
lowest level since the 1980s. Levels remained static because, in the main, real
incomes for households near the bottom of the income distribution fell by roughly
the same rate as real incomes for households at the average.


In 2011/12, the percentage of individuals in absolute low income,
measured against the 2010/11 baseline, was 17 per cent BHC, which is one percentage
point, or 900,000 people, higher than in 2010/11. As incomes across the
distribution grew by less than RPI inflation in 2011/12, and the absolute low-
income threshold was uprated by RPI inflation, the population falling into
absolute low income rose.

ONS: https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/206850/first_release_1112.pdf


Another fact: youll spout more b***ocks about how "its not like that".

Is this Onion Man sounds like his verbal diarrhoea?

[Stephen.C]

I'm afraid the 1950s disappeared long ago, the definition of poverty has changed, I think I heard that if you spend more than 20% of your income on energy you are classed as being in fuel poverty, another thing that has changed is attitudes towards holidays they are now classed as a necessity, I lost a customer today reason given "energy rises", this was a privately owned house with both people working, trouble is people do listen to the news and I can just imagine the conversation in that house, "How can we save money? Mmmmm, window cleaner will have to go then", warning to all don't get complacent, window cleaning is not immune to the economic turmoil.

As you clearly cant read, heres the facts again about poverty.  Not "I think I heard". Facts.

 The percentage of individuals in relative low income, Before Housing Costs
(BHC), was 16 per cent. This is unchanged from 2010/11 and continues the
lowest level since the 1980s. Levels remained static because, in the main, real
incomes for households near the bottom of the income distribution fell by roughly
the same rate as real incomes for households at the average.


In 2011/12, the percentage of individuals in absolute low income,
measured against the 2010/11 baseline, was 17 per cent BHC, which is one percentage
point, or 900,000 people, higher than in 2010/11. As incomes across the
distribution grew by less than RPI inflation in 2011/12, and the absolute low-
income threshold was uprated by RPI inflation, the population falling into
absolute low income rose.

ONS: https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/206850/first_release_1112.pdf


Another fact: youll spout more b***ocks about how "its not like that".

Is this Onion Man sounds like his verbal diarrhoea?

Onion Man is Vin hasn't been on here for ages.

[deeege]

Plagues of Romanian window cleaners that are about to hit our shores and take all our work.

Just like all the Kosovans and Polish did.

Yes Tosh, it was said 'tongue in cheek' for that exact reason. I'm surprised the topic hasn't popped up on the forum yet.

[Dave Mills]

Another fact: youll spout more b***ocks about how "its not like that".

Is this Onion Man sounds like his verbal diarrhoea?

I've looked though your past posts and youre a bit of a prat, arent you? You post your opinions as facts and get annoyed when people show that youre wrong. You said 50% of people are below the poverty line. THEY ARE NOT.

You also seem to lose a LOT of customers (but youre wfp and you dont rinse, so Im not surprised).  But thats not your fault, its the cost of living that makes them dump you not the fact that you make a mess of their windows.  Youre a miserable sod, so they probably just get sick of you moaning.  Me, I'm happy and upbeat all the time and they seem  to want me to keep coming.  Must be the booming 1950s economy up here.

Bye.

[Pro-Poler]

Another fact: youll spout more b***ocks about how "its not like that".

Is this Onion Man sounds like his verbal diarrhoea?

I've looked though your past posts and youre a bit of a prat, arent you? You post your opinions as facts and get annoyed when people show that youre wrong. You said 50% of people are below the poverty line. THEY ARE NOT.

You also seem to lose a LOT of customers (but youre wfp and you dont rinse, so Im not surprised).  But thats not your fault, its the cost of living that makes them dump you not the fact that you make a mess of their windows.  Youre a miserable sod, so they probably just get sick of you moaning.  Me, I'm happy and upbeat all the time and they seem  to want me to keep coming.  Must be the booming 1950s economy up here.

Bye.
/quote]I've looked through your posts and you're a lot of a pratt aren't you?