[Kev Martin]

Rob

You have a reading problem!  It is called selective!  I have always advocated the use of brushes there are 50+ posts on this Forum to prove that.  

I really don't care how you do a job or what with!  You will soon realise that you haven't thought through your posts and that it is the speed on the machine and accurate pressure that is making the little 4" brush work that you have.  What you fail to realise is a wire cup brush will work exactly the same on an angle grinder and they are only £2.50.

This is why your by your own admission your 15" Diamond Brush on your slowspeed mono rotary only does 80% of the removal and then you have to go over the whole floor with your 4" brush.

Verona and speaking to the brush manufacturers "Cobblers"  do you think one of them has ever done any extensive testing?  If you do you are sadly mistaken!

I buy diamond brushes off one of the best,  most competent manufacturers in the World and even he openly admits he knows sod all about stone!

Get on with it Rob!  I genuinely wish you all the best selling your brushes!

Finally still return the Aqua Mix Sealing & Coating Remover even opened and I will still give you a full refund and we will continue to sell 100's of litres a month of a product that doesn't work that people come back for time after time!  

"NOTE:   TILING LOGISTICS OFFER A FULL REFUND ON ANYTHING THAT SOMEONE IS NOT SATISFIED WITH!"  This includes the VAC you bought even though it is now well over a year old!



Kev Martin
Tiling Logistics Ltd

[Rob Hall]

Rob

You have a reading problem!  It is called selective!  I have always advocated the use of brushes there are 50+ posts on this Forum to prove that.  

I really don't care how you do a job or what with!  You will soon realise that you haven't thought through your posts and that it is the speed on the machine and accurate pressure that is making the little 4" brush work that you have.  What you fail to realise is a wire cup brush will work exactly the same on an angle grinder and they are only £2.50.

This is why your by your own admission your 15" Diamond Brush on your slowspeed mono rotary only does 80% of the removal and then you have to go over the whole floor with your 4" brush.

Verona and speaking to the brush manufacturers "Cobblers"  do you think one of them has ever done any extensive testing?  If you do you are sadly mistaken!

I buy diamond brushes off one of the best,  most competent manufacturers in the World and even he openly admits he knows sod all about stone!

Get on with it Rob!  I genuinely wish you all the best selling your brushes!

Finally still return the Aqua Mix Sealing & Coating Remover even opened and I will still give you a full refund and we will continue to sell 100's of litres a month of a product that doesn't work that people come back for time after time!  

"NOTE:   TILING LOGISTICS OFFER A FULL REFUND ON ANYTHING THAT SOMEONE IS NOT SATISFIED WITH!"  This includes the VAC you bought even though it is now well over a year old!



Kev Martin
Tiling Logistics Ltd

I have a selective reading problem....pffff....kettle and black come to mind!!!

Where does it say that I go over the WHOLE floor with a 4" brush after using my rotary? I said 20% (and you call me a selective reader...yeah right!)

So, you are saying that the brush manufacturers don't do any testing?? Really?? You are having a laugh aren't you!!

So, you buy from people who don't know what they are doing??? Nice...! and he is one of the best and competent is he??? I am glad I don't buy from him

I have never once said I am unhappy with the vac however, if the offer is on the table...its on its way...I will have a look for one that parts are easy to pick up....cheers Kev. That offer will take some beating!!
I take it that is a 100% refund is it?
There is only about 1ltr of the remover left, even I think I would be taking the 'P' if I sent that back!!

I have some photos for you from todays test, I will put them on later.

I used some more of the Aqua Mix Sealer and coating remover today...guess what....it removed something!! Yeah, it actually worked!!!

I pre wet the floor...let it dwell for 4 hours, kept adding a bit more...I used about a litre on two stone slabs and it actually removed some nasty red stuff...who knows, if I had used another two ltrs on the two pieces of stone, it could have removed some more. All I would have needed then was another 4 or 5 bottles of the stuff and a couple more days and it would have removed some more!! Meanwhile, I did the other 20sqm with my brush whilst the remover was 'working'.

[Kev Martin]

Rob

You don't get it do you!  I am sick of reading this drivel and whingeing about how you think everything I say is wrong and the whole World is out to rip you off!  

1.  Do you actually read what you write?  So you want to return a VAC so that the next one you buy has cheaper blades by £3.50 so you save £7?  Is that it?  Well if it makes you happy send the VAC back for a full 100% refund!  I want it back by Friday 8th November in my Unit!  The return costs by the way are down to you before you ask for those as well.  As are the original shipping costs.
2.  Aqua Mix Sealing and Coating Remover doesn't work for you!!!!  "I HAVE GOT THE MESSAGE"  "SO HAS THE WHOLE FORUM" But you tried it again anyway?  "Send that back as well and I will still refund it"  


" YOUR RIGHT I AM WRONG"

NOW YOU CAN ADD ME TO THE LIST WITH POSH FLOORS AND TILE DOCTOR

[Rob Hall]

Rob

You don't get it do you!  I am sick of reading this drivel and whingeing about how you think everything I say is wrong and the whole World is out to rip you off!  

1.  Do you actually read what you write?  So you want to return a VAC so that the next one you buy has cheaper blades by £3.50 so you save £7?  Is that it?  Well if it makes you happy send the VAC back for a full 100% refund!  I want it back by Friday 8th November in my Unit!  The return costs by the way are down to you before you ask for those as well.  As are the original shipping costs.
2.  Aqua Mix Sealing and Coating Remover doesn't work for you!!!!  "I HAVE GOT THE MESSAGE"  "SO HAS THE WHOLE FORUM" But you tried it again anyway?  "Send that back as well and I will still refund it"  


" YOUR RIGHT I AM WRONG"

NOW YOU CAN ADD ME TO THE LIST WITH POSH FLOORS AND TILE DOCTOR

Oohh!! So I have hit a nerve have I?
Wow, what a reply! Another arrogant rant from you, you simply cannot have a decent chat about anything can you? You hate it when it is not going your way! You cannot handle criticism at all can you?

Ok, first of all, I have checked my posts and I cannot find where I have said.."The whole world is trying to rip me off". Do me a favour and point me to the thread will you?

I made a comment about your vac blades. They give the impression that they are easily replaced (I have attached a photo so you can see the mistake I have obviously made)

Secondly, I have never once said that you are wrong. In fact, I have always commented about how good your course is and how knowledgable you are about the industry....and you accuse me of selective reading..!! I have done other courses and to be honest, they weren't a patch on yours, again, selective reading!!

Now, about the return of the vac. You will see from most of my earlier posts that I have included lots of little smiley faces (its called humour Kevin.) I didn't realise that you have had a sense of humour bypass, I would not send back the vac after having for over a year. I would not buy another thats all.

On to your Aqua Mix Sealing and Coating remover. Get someone to read the last post of mine (because you obviously cant read) it says that it did actually remove some nasty red stuff AND it only took 4 hours as opposed to overnight as mentioned on another thread!!! What do you see wrong with that?

All I have ever said is....IN MY OPINION....a floor can be cleaned using a diamond brush and water WITHOUT the use of a chemical cleaner. I have tried your Aqua Mix Sealing and Coating Remover and it didn't work on two different sealers....ok?
Again, I will not be sending that back either, I will just not buy anymore and use the Diamond Brush system because IT WORKS FOR ME!

Lighten up a bit Kevin, your blood pressure must be sky high. Stop being Mr Angry all the time, other people are entitled to their opinion.

I sincerely hope that you get your courses back on offer to people, they are far better than Tile Doctor and Posh Floors....IN MY OPINION!!

I also wish you luck with your new move and hope its successful for you.

JUST LIGHTEN UP A BIT!!!!! I will always have an opinion and unless this country turns communist...I always will 

[Jamie Pearson]

Why cant you replace the rubbers?

These are the same as the older Soteco heads which you can remove the metal strip then the rubber strip and fit new ones.

I think we may actually have some stock of those. T

he newer style "friction free" tools are also available and can be changed just by removing 4 screws and dropping in a new set.

We change em pretty much every month depending on the type of work we have been doing.

[Rob Hall]

Why cant you replace the rubbers?

These are the same as the older Soteco heads which you can remove the metal strip then the rubber strip and fit new ones.

I think we may actually have some stock of those. T

he newer style "friction free" tools are also available and can be changed just by removing 4 screws and dropping in a new set.

We change em pretty much every month depending on the type of work we have been doing.

|Excellent, can you send me some please...as my "other" suppliers seems to have forgotten that they were meant to be checking some stock for me 4 days ago!!

(wait for the abuse....I can feel it coming.... )

[Rob Hall]

Rob

You have a reading problem!  It is called selective!  I have always advocated the use of brushes there are 50+ posts on this Forum to prove that.  

I really don't care how you do a job or what with!  You will soon realise that you haven't thought through your posts and that it is the speed on the machine and accurate pressure that is making the little 4" brush work that you have.  What you fail to realise is a wire cup brush will work exactly the same on an angle grinder and they are only £2.50.

This is why your by your own admission your 15" Diamond Brush on your slowspeed mono rotary only does 80% of the removal and then you have to go over the whole floor with your 4" brush.

Verona and speaking to the brush manufacturers "Cobblers"  do you think one of them has ever done any extensive testing?  If you do you are sadly mistaken!

I buy diamond brushes off one of the best,  most competent manufacturers in the World and even he openly admits he knows sod all about stone!

Get on with it Rob!  I genuinely wish you all the best selling your brushes!

Finally still return the Aqua Mix Sealing & Coating Remover even opened and I will still give you a full refund and we will continue to sell 100's of litres a month of a product that doesn't work that people come back for time after time!  

"NOTE:   TILING LOGISTICS OFFER A FULL REFUND ON ANYTHING THAT SOMEONE IS NOT SATISFIED WITH!"  This includes the VAC you bought even though it is now well over a year old!



Kev Martin
Tiling Logistics Ltd

Just had another read of the above post of yours and feel the need to correct you on your point about the 15" brush.
When you use a 15" brush, the area of the brush that is in contact with the floor is not the same as using a 4" brush on a flex machine. By the very nature of it being on a flex machine you can manipulate the brush in any direction you like, unlike the 15" which is flat to the floor. Hope this makes sense. Think of it this way, if you place your palm of your hand on the floor and twist it, this is the effect of a 15" brush, however, if you use your finger nail on the floor, you are using a smaller area, but a more 'plyable' area, this is about the difference in the two....I know it sounds a bit strange, but its the best I can think of that is easy to grasp.

[Kev Martin]

Why cant you replace the rubbers?

These are the same as the older Soteco heads which you can remove the metal strip then the rubber strip and fit new ones.

I think we may actually have some stock of those. T

he newer style "friction free" tools are also available and can be changed just by removing 4 screws and dropping in a new set.

We change em pretty much every month depending on the type of work we have been doing.

Jamie

You can replace the rubbers but they got to such a price with our suppliers it was better to just buy the whole head.  When we are flat out grinding and vaccing slurry we use a set of rubbers in a week.  What we found in the beginning was by the second set of rubbers we found the screws needed replacing as well.  By the 4th change the bars holding the rubbers were beginning to rust.  Now we don't even bother we just cost in the vac heads appropriate to the size of the job.  So roughly 1 head per vac per week of grinding.  Or the price of 1/2 a head per job if we are cleaning.  Let me know if you can still get them cheap mate because I can't anymore.  If you can I will have 200 pairs off you!

Kev Martin
Tiling Logistics Ltd

[Rob Hall]

Ok, here are the photos I promised...

First one shows pre wetting floor
then..
Aqua Mix Sealer & Coating Remover...

[Rob Hall]

I then let it dwell for 4 hours, agitating every 20-30 mins and adding more AMS&CR
After 4 hours, some of the red stuff had gone...so I assume that after a further application and another 4 hours, it would have worked.
As I only had a day to do the job, I had to use my brushes with water to finish off.

Photos show a before and after

[Kev Martin]

Rob

You have a reading problem!  It is called selective!  I have always advocated the use of brushes there are 50+ posts on this Forum to prove that.  

I really don't care how you do a job or what with!  You will soon realise that you haven't thought through your posts and that it is the speed on the machine and accurate pressure that is making the little 4" brush work that you have.  What you fail to realise is a wire cup brush will work exactly the same on an angle grinder and they are only £2.50.

This is why your by your own admission your 15" Diamond Brush on your slowspeed mono rotary only does 80% of the removal and then you have to go over the whole floor with your 4" brush.

Verona and speaking to the brush manufacturers "Cobblers"  do you think one of them has ever done any extensive testing?  If you do you are sadly mistaken!

I buy diamond brushes off one of the best,  most competent manufacturers in the World and even he openly admits he knows sod all about stone!

Get on with it Rob!  I genuinely wish you all the best selling your brushes!

Finally still return the Aqua Mix Sealing & Coating Remover even opened and I will still give you a full refund and we will continue to sell 100's of litres a month of a product that doesn't work that people come back for time after time!  

"NOTE:   TILING LOGISTICS OFFER A FULL REFUND ON ANYTHING THAT SOMEONE IS NOT SATISFIED WITH!"  This includes the VAC you bought even though it is now well over a year old!



Kev Martin
Tiling Logistics Ltd

Just had another read of the above post of yours and feel the need to correct you on your point about the 15" brush.
When you use a 15" brush, the area of the brush that is in contact with the floor is not the same as using a 4" brush on a flex machine. By the very nature of it being on a flex machine you can manipulate the brush in any direction you like, unlike the 15" which is flat to the floor. Hope this makes sense. Think of it this way, if you place your palm of your hand on the floor and twist it, this is the effect of a 15" brush, however, if you use your finger nail on the floor, you are using a smaller area, but a more 'plyable' area, this is about the difference in the two....I know it sounds a bit strange, but its the best I can think of that is easy to grasp.

This is a quote from the post above yours!!!!!  READ IT!!!

"I really don't care how you do a job or what with!  You will soon realise that you haven't thought through your posts and that it is the speed on the machine and accurate pressure that is making the little 4" brush work that you have."

[Rob Hall]

Rob

You have a reading problem!  It is called selective!  I have always advocated the use of brushes there are 50+ posts on this Forum to prove that.  

I really don't care how you do a job or what with!  You will soon realise that you haven't thought through your posts and that it is the speed on the machine and accurate pressure that is making the little 4" brush work that you have.  What you fail to realise is a wire cup brush will work exactly the same on an angle grinder and they are only £2.50.

This is why your by your own admission your 15" Diamond Brush on your slowspeed mono rotary only does 80% of the removal and then you have to go over the whole floor with your 4" brush.

Verona and speaking to the brush manufacturers "Cobblers"  do you think one of them has ever done any extensive testing?  If you do you are sadly mistaken!

I buy diamond brushes off one of the best,  most competent manufacturers in the World and even he openly admits he knows sod all about stone!

Get on with it Rob!  I genuinely wish you all the best selling your brushes!

Finally still return the Aqua Mix Sealing & Coating Remover even opened and I will still give you a full refund and we will continue to sell 100's of litres a month of a product that doesn't work that people come back for time after time!  

"NOTE:   TILING LOGISTICS OFFER A FULL REFUND ON ANYTHING THAT SOMEONE IS NOT SATISFIED WITH!"  This includes the VAC you bought even though it is now well over a year old!



Kev Martin
Tiling Logistics Ltd

Just had another read of the above post of yours and feel the need to correct you on your point about the 15" brush.
When you use a 15" brush, the area of the brush that is in contact with the floor is not the same as using a 4" brush on a flex machine. By the very nature of it being on a flex machine you can manipulate the brush in any direction you like, unlike the 15" which is flat to the floor. Hope this makes sense. Think of it this way, if you place your palm of your hand on the floor and twist it, this is the effect of a 15" brush, however, if you use your finger nail on the floor, you are using a smaller area, but a more 'plyable' area, this is about the difference in the two....I know it sounds a bit strange, but its the best I can think of that is easy to grasp.

This is a quote from the post above yours!!!!!  READ IT!!!

"I really don't care how you do a job or what with!  You will soon realise that you haven't thought through your posts and that it is the speed on the machine and accurate pressure that is making the little 4" brush work that you have."

Not sure what point you are trying to make???

Lets leave at this...
Diamonds have been used for cutting/cleaning stone for many years, they work for me and countless others without using chemicals. Hope that is clear enough for you.