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SherwoodCleaningSe

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Only one boiler working out of two puzzle.
« on: September 18, 2013, 04:47:50 pm »
Hi Guys

I sorted this one now but I'm just interested to see if anyone can come up with the answer.  I've got 2 8L LPG boilers fitted in my van connected to one 19kg propane bottle.  So I have pump boiler hose reel 100 meters of thermobore twice.

Fot the past couple of days only one boiler has been working at a time, one will work fine but then as soon as the other starts up one of them will fail.  I'd mess around with various settings and could make one boiler more reliable but not get both working at the same time.

Any ideas what the problem was?

Simon.

dannymack

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Re: Only one boiler working out of two puzzle.
« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2013, 05:03:10 pm »
Why have 2 don't be greedy & work with the one boiler lol !!!

SherwoodCleaningSe

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Re: Only one boiler working out of two puzzle.
« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2013, 05:20:50 pm »
One for me and one for the wife, so you could say I work with 3 boilers.  :o

Re: Only one boiler working out of two puzzle.
« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2013, 05:26:07 pm »
How many pumps do you have on the two hoses. I am presuming you have one and two hoses.

 1)It sounds like the second boiler is gas starved because the pressure in one bottle is not enough for two boilers.If this is the case you will need a pump on the gas bottle.
 
 2)Or if its one pump the pressure and flow is not enough to open the pressure/gas valve in the second boiler due to not enough flow.Two boilers( L 8  )will need 16litres to work efficiently. And if you had two pumps at 5 liters per minute which is not 8 lpm so is short of 3 liters on each boiler.

Dave Willis

Re: Only one boiler working out of two puzzle.
« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2013, 05:32:02 pm »
Two boilers off one regulator drawing too much gas? Not enough water for two boilers? Strainer dirty?

Re: Only one boiler working out of two puzzle.
« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2013, 05:58:11 pm »
     I had a boiler 8L  made in China so we know which one, running a 5lpm pump as a result the boiler would get hotter due to a lack of flow, This resulted in the boiler over heating and by the time the overheating switch engaged or did  not .Its was to late and the boiler burst, as I was packing in the pole at the back door were it was fasted.This resulted in me getting  scolded on my arms and the upper legs.Fortunately it was the very cold spell we had in the start of last winter and I riped my top off and put snow on the burn markes which resulted in not getting badly burned. I did write about the bursting boiler but felt foolish as it was a mistake by me by not fitting a bigger pump.
     I now have a 7liter pump and 5 liter boiler which due to the flow not been high will only produce water to 60 degrees.
      Been doing some research into U P hose nd found out that it will only keep its shape at a max of 60 degrees and will come out of the John Guest fittings like a few have experiencing already. The so called P U hose is in fact a poly Urthane Ester hose which will work which is fine till 60 degrees then will distort. Not the same as UPVC which makes a swollen sausage like and then bursts.P.U. will not burst. This is all from the horses mouth.

SherwoodCleaningSe

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Re: Only one boiler working out of two puzzle.
« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2013, 06:31:18 pm »
A pump for each boiler. I thought it was the regulator at first as I had one go faulty recently, bit it wasn't that.

Simon.

Re: Only one boiler working out of two puzzle.
« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2013, 06:59:15 pm »
Come on tell us. Interested to know.

Dave Willis

Re: Only one boiler working out of two puzzle.
« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2013, 07:01:53 pm »
Co2 sensor tripping?

SherwoodCleaningSe

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Re: Only one boiler working out of two puzzle.
« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2013, 07:16:56 pm »
I'll give an additional clue.

I tried it out with both pumps working but switching one boiler off. As soon as the second pump started the boiler would switch off.

Simon.

Re: Only one boiler working out of two puzzle.
« Reply #10 on: September 18, 2013, 07:38:57 pm »
I give up. Could be a few things. How are the pumps wired and do they feed into a common pipe then into the boiler, to much pressure and flow,as the pressure switch will kick the second off. damn this.

SherwoodCleaningSe

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Re: Only one boiler working out of two puzzle.
« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2013, 10:28:12 pm »
It was the filter to the pumps, I have one outlet for the tank going into a filter then T'd off to both pumps.  It was jam packed with 7 years of dirt and was restricting the flow, cleaned it out and both boilers fire up perfectly.

I guess it should be part of regular maintenance, however it's buried under a cover and rarely get's thought off.

Simon.

Dave Willis

Re: Only one boiler working out of two puzzle.
« Reply #12 on: September 19, 2013, 07:38:38 am »
 ::)roll I think I did mention that.

SherwoodCleaningSe

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Re: Only one boiler working out of two puzzle.
« Reply #14 on: September 19, 2013, 09:31:04 am »
That is very interesting, so even with two pumps going the volume of water flow and pressure was not enough to fire the second boiler.I guess the pressure of the water just compacted the dirt nd slowed the flow down. Quite a riddle. Well down to mr Willis.Understanding these boilers is quite difficult to predict at times.

dannymack

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Re: Only one boiler working out of two puzzle.
« Reply #15 on: September 19, 2013, 11:05:07 am »
X3 Boilers pmsl if ya wife read that she will give ya a slap Sherwood but was funny !!!