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Brendan (chem2clean)

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Google
« on: June 28, 2013, 09:24:58 pm »
I know theres a google update going on at the moment and more to come during the summer.What i cant get my head around is on some main keywords ,like carpet cleaning and the city,sites with no seo,hardly any backlinks are top of organic...google is a mystery.........

Brendan (chem2clean)

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Re: google
« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2013, 10:04:28 pm »
How do i go about doing that wynne in webmaster .Only thing that seems to bother them is my site runs on a old edition of wordpress.

garry22

Re: Google
« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2013, 08:09:21 pm »
Did you not get hit by the first Penguin update (correct me if I'm wrong)?

It looks like you have some "iffy" links from blog networks. Maybe the domain is still a bit toxic?

Brendan (chem2clean)

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Re: Google
« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2013, 08:19:45 pm »
Hi gary,i am expecting one of my sites to get slapped,the one you mentioned.But my other site took a dip,its climbing again do.What i cant figure out is the sites with top ranking have hardly any links or content on there sites....

ian harper

Re: Google
« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2013, 07:53:57 am »
Guys

why not have a play try thing like new sites, strategies, etc then you can see how google reacts to what you do this is how you can find out what works. this method has other advantages like taking up space on any results page depriving competitors of that space.

you can really fine tune this stuff with different servers, ips.

But as matt cutts says its content that really matters so posting new pages is the number one thing you should be doing. this helps with keyword longtails gets you more hits and make your site more of a authority.

I can see from both your site you have but work into them and they are very nice but sometimes you have to let go and try new things, that site will always have its place in the listings so no loss there.

Good Luck

Ian Harper

Jason Hedges

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Re: Google
« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2013, 12:46:43 am »
Not only do you need good on page seo you also need backlinks that google likes shared with social media signals. Google likes relevant backlinks to your site and from your site to other relevant sites. Its pretty easy to rank a local carpet cleaning website at the moment with an optimised website and a few nice backlinks in a few weeks. You need to know what you're doing though or pay someone that does.

Kind regards,
Jason.

Simon Gerrard

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Re: Google
« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2013, 10:18:41 am »
Will someone explain in detail how to do that...in English, please?
Back links for dummies will do ;D

Paul Clapham

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Re: Google
« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2013, 11:35:06 am »
Backlinks ? so. if my Website / Linkedin / Personal and Business Facebook site all "talk" about each other is this "backlinks" .............god, this stuff is so boring !!!!!, but necessary I guess  :-\
This is the season for fine wine, and drunken friends, enjoy this moment, for this moment is your life.

garry22

Re: Google
« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2013, 01:34:01 pm »
A backlink is any link pointing at your site from somewhere else.

The more relevant a site, with high page rank will carry the most weight.

Page rank is Google's method for determining page authority and rank. From what I remember, it is a logarithmic scale of (I think) 8 times.  That means a link from a page rank 1 site is worth eight times more than a zero. A PR 2 one is worth 64 etc.

Relevance is very important too. For carpet cleaners, a link from inside a paragraph on the home page of say, the NCCA or TACCA would be really powerful as would any  link from a high PR carpet cleaning related site.

An in context link like above is far better than a low quality one from a "links" page.

Social sites also give backlinks (for instance the Google + homepage is a PR9). As these are supposedly harder to fake, they are (allegedly) more and more important. Lot's of activity on social sites should indicate that the site is popular.

The anchor text (the blue, underlined bit) also says a lot about your site and used to be vital for ranking sites. What the Penguin updates did was look for unnatural looking (fake) link structures.

A "natural" pattern would have lots of "click here" or "visit site" or www.carpet cleaner.co.uk type etc

If a site had a hundred backlinks and ninety nine had "carpet cleaning your town" as the anchor text, it was pretty certain that something naughty was going on. These were the one's that got slapped.

ian harper

Re: Google
« Reply #9 on: July 08, 2013, 05:41:16 am »
Link = Vote for that page

Page Rank = Larry Page (Owner Google) ranking algorithm not Page

garry22

Re: Google
« Reply #10 on: July 08, 2013, 12:51:46 pm »
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Page Rank = Larry Page (Owner Google) ranking algorithm not Page

Yep - used to rank pages and sites