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Re: Solar Event Tomorrow In Swansea.
« Reply #60 on: March 13, 2013, 11:46:05 am »
Strange, I thought panels made no electricity after dark.  ;D
The big banks of panels would offer an excellent roi. Can't see the residential market for cleaning taking off somehow - not at the £5 per panel some guys expect. I don't see them as any harder to clean than a velux window to be honest so £1 a panel could still be profitable for me as I have the equipment anyway. Customers can't see if they are clean anyway.

I have noticed a 100% increase in performance since I cleaned them in the dark. Think I'll put that on my website.  :D
They do produce in the dark, it's just less.
£5 per panel is an outrageous price, you're right.
Just because customers cannot see if they are not clean does not mean we should not do a thorough job. I can't speak for others, but we take great pride in offering a professional service to clients, even on the parts of he property they cannot see. I'd want a roofer to be thorough on my house, even though I couldn't check his work easily.

Dave Willis

Re: Solar Event Tomorrow In Swansea.
« Reply #61 on: March 13, 2013, 12:33:18 pm »
 ;D what I meant was they aren't as difficult as glass - customer can't inspect them closely, no need to rinse off and no worries about spotting. Therefore very quick to clean for us.

Are you sure they produce electricity in the dark  :o Pretty sure mine don't.


Talking of ROI - if the window cleaner hasn't got a thirty foot plus pole and panels are only a couple of quid each then his ROI may mean that it's just not worth him buying the extra equipment. The ROI for cleaning windows only is excellent particularly for trad guys.

Re: Solar Event Tomorrow In Swansea.
« Reply #62 on: March 13, 2013, 12:56:51 pm »
;D what I meant was they aren't as difficult as glass - customer can't inspect them closely, no need to rinse off and no worries about spotting. Therefore very quick to clean for us.

Are you sure they produce electricity in the dark  :o Pretty sure mine don't.


Talking of ROI - if the window cleaner hasn't got a thirty foot plus pole and panels are only a couple of quid each then his ROI may mean that it's just not worth him buying the extra equipment. The ROI for cleaning windows only is excellent particularly for trad guys.

If you buy a 30 foot pole and use it once you still have the value of the pole should you wish to sell it. I guess most of us use our biggest pole several times a month.

Re: Solar Event Tomorrow In Swansea.
« Reply #63 on: March 13, 2013, 02:12:42 pm »
;D what I meant was they aren't as difficult as glass - customer can't inspect them closely, no need to rinse off and no worries about spotting. Therefore very quick to clean for us.

Are you sure they produce electricity in the dark  :o Pretty sure mine don't.


Talking of ROI - if the window cleaner hasn't got a thirty foot plus pole and panels are only a couple of quid each then his ROI may mean that it's just not worth him buying the extra equipment. The ROI for cleaning windows only is excellent particularly for trad guys.
They will produce from just street light, it's only a small amount, but they are definitely producing.
ROI is important. I've spend about 2k on poles for solar jobs that have come in. But I did a ground mount the other day using my extreme 44. The job didn't quite cover the cost of the pole. The client only wanted a one-off clean. He has seen how much extra output he is now getting and wants them doing every 6 months, so the pole will pay for itself just on that job next time. But I can use the pole elsewhere now so the ROI will be there.