[Andrew Willis]

The three of us got ours today too

Congratulations all round 

[Andrew Willis]

How long from completing the course / work place assessment did you have to wait chaps?

Still waiting for mine thata all

Paul, give Jamie an e-mail and we will see if we can chase it up, ...Andy
jamie@impact43.com

[Andrew Willis]

All my customers laugh at me for having an NVQ, I nearly got barred from cleaning a local hospital  when they found out.

 

Knowledge is power

[Andrew Willis]

NVQ in window cleaning indeed , having read this thread a did chuckle a couple of times at the image of mr and mrs smith's window cleaner looking all proud when he rocks up and announces his newly aquired NVQ and then they close the door and p themselves .... brilliant!................... if you need to sit an exam to make yourself feel that your business choice is worthwhile then maybe you lot are the ones who really feel inferior for bein JUST a window cleaner.

Get and NVQ and any other 2 bit qualifications that the latest training firm comes up with to make a few quid to try and convince yourselves that this really is very professional after all , or just stand tall and announce that you are a window cleaner and not feel inferior , your choice,

You have chosen window cleaning for whatever reason you have chosen it , most of you are WFP cos you understand health and safety, you are sensible and dont wanna risk injuries running up and down a ladder everyday. You already have the common sense and are already self aware enough to understand safety of you and others around you (the majority of you anyway) due to you advances in the trade that you have already taken and invested in. Do you really need to give up your earnings for a day/week or however long it takes for someone to tell you what you already know and give you a certificate at the end of it?

You lot choose what you want to do with your own feelings of inferiority but i say,

NVQ do me a favour and i'm out

Matt,
Nice site
http://www.pure-windowcleaning.co.uk/safety.html

Looks like a professional set up
I would have thought the City and Guilds would only enhance what you already have.

Regards

Andy

[Andrew Willis]

If the training has changed, does this mean it wasn't good before ?

When you stick your guys on later in the year I would love you sit through the new workshops. I feel we have improved them quite a bit over the last two years. The van for example with loads of kit that the window cleaners can try out. 

[Andrew Willis]

I've been quite vocal on here regarding government funding for these courses etc. But I must confess I haven't looked too closely at what the course entails other than there's a fair amount of h&s. Could those who have done it tell me roughly what percentage is h&s, running a business & actual cleaning windows?

Hi DG , i am currently on the course at the moment with one more day to do this wednesday, when i have finished i will be giving my views both positive and negative on how i viewed the course, Lee has asked me to write an article for his magazine and i have accepted to do this i hope it helps as i am sorry to say if the subject starts being discussed on here i feel it does not take long before the debates get personal and so loose any benefit to anybody.
 

RE Trevors comments, pending article,

It is easy to comment on what improvements could be made.

I would like to make loads, however we have to work within the City and Guilds standards, we have loads of extra items that are above what should be included.

Just for the record I can advise that funding will stop from the end of July,

so for those that have jumped on the wagon, its been fun and I have loved every minute.

We have seen some excellent guys come through and I hope all have taken something away from the course.
 
Its funny, I have spent the last couple of days in the office imroving the course for our current contract, so I am always trying to make improvements.

For those who come on the forum just to slate the course without actually having attended, Its not that clever. 

You would be doing well if you had 10% of the knowledge and experience that the likes of Ian Wicks has.   

 

[mark dew]

Andrew, do you plan to do any courses in the east of england. More specifically the  Lowestoft or Great Yarmouth area?
I would like to do one or more of your courses but i think the nearest you have been is Norwich which is 30 miles away.
Any plans on this in the future?

[CleanClear]

NVQ in window cleaning indeed , having read this thread a did chuckle a couple of times at the image of mr and mrs smith's window cleaner looking all proud when he rocks up and announces his newly aquired NVQ and then they close the door and p themselves .... brilliant!................... if you need to sit an exam to make yourself feel that your business choice is worthwhile then maybe you lot are the ones who really feel inferior for bein JUST a window cleaner.

Get and NVQ and any other 2 bit qualifications that the latest training firm comes up with to make a few quid to try and convince yourselves that this really is very professional after all , or just stand tall and announce that you are a window cleaner and not feel inferior , your choice,

You have chosen window cleaning for whatever reason you have chosen it , most of you are WFP cos you understand health and safety, you are sensible and dont wanna risk injuries running up and down a ladder everyday. You already have the common sense and are already self aware enough to understand safety of you and others around you (the majority of you anyway) due to you advances in the trade that you have already taken and invested in. Do you really need to give up your earnings for a day/week or however long it takes for someone to tell you what you already know and give you a certificate at the end of it?

You lot choose what you want to do with your own feelings of inferiority but i say,

NVQ do me a favour and i'm out

Matt,
Nice site
http://www.pure-windowcleaning.co.uk/safety.html

Looks like a professional set up
I would have thought the City and Guilds would only enhance what you already have.

Regards

Andy

Matts site says.............
As a professional cleaning company the Health & Safety of our clients and our workforce is extremely important to us.

I'd be certain that Matt has a great in house training system if he doesn't use or rely on city and guilds quals, don't you Matt ?

[Andrew Willis]

Andrew, do you plan to do any courses in the east of england. More specifically the  Lowestoft or Great Yarmouth area?
I would like to do one or more of your courses but i think the nearest you have been is Norwich which is 30 miles away.
Any plans on this in the future?

Hi Mark

Norwich will be the nearest, Give Gary a call in the office 01205 364333

Regards

Andy

[♠Winp®oClean♠]

I've been quite vocal on here regarding government funding for these courses etc. But I must confess I haven't looked too closely at what the course entails other than there's a fair amount of h&s. Could those who have done it tell me roughly what percentage is h&s, running a business & actual cleaning windows?

Hi DG , i am currently on the course at the moment with one more day to do this wednesday, when i have finished i will be giving my views both positive and negative on how i viewed the course, Lee has asked me to write an article for his magazine and i have accepted to do this i hope it helps as i am sorry to say if the subject starts being discussed on here i feel it does not take long before the debates get personal and so loose any benefit to anybody.
 

RE Trevors comments, pending article,

It is easy to comment on what improvements could be made.

I would like to make loads, however we have to work within the City and Guilds standards, we have loads of extra items that are above what should be included.

Just for the record I can advise that funding will stop from the end of July,

so for those that have jumped on the wagon, its been fun and I have loved every minute.

We have seen some excellent guys come through and I hope all have taken something away from the course.
 
Its funny, I have spent the last couple of days in the office imroving the course for our current contract, so I am always trying to make improvements.

For those who come on the forum just to slate the course without actually having attended, Its not that clever. 

You would be doing well if you had 10% of the knowledge and experience that the likes of Ian Wicks has.   

 

 

That must be why he's such a success?

[keyser soze]

really pleased i went on the course andrew.. regardless of the negatives from some on here .you are a top bloke and a pleasure to meet the impact 43 team .......inc ian wickes lol...

[Andrew Willis]

really pleased i went on the course andrew.. regardless of the negatives from some on here .you are a top bloke and a pleasure to meet the impact 43 team .......inc ian wickes lol...

Thank you, that's a very nice thing to say, much appreciated. 

[Moderator David@stives]

Hi Andrew

I would gladly sit the course again, especially considering how much money I made on the last one

[CleanClear]

 I done the course too, i'd highly recommend it. It great for anyone in the game to get a bit smarter as regards the law and HS issues affecting them. For someone starting from scratch though who knows nothing that course by http://www.windowcleaningcollege.co.uk/  looks good. And the city and guilds course does not and is not aimed at getting you going like the window cleaning college one. They're all good !! 

[Andrew Willis]

I done the course too, i'd highly recommend it. It great for anyone in the game to get a bit smarter as regards the law and HS issues affecting them. For someone starting from scratch though who knows nothing that course by http://www.windowcleaningcollege.co.uk/  looks good. And the city and guilds course does not and is not aimed at getting you going like the window cleaning college one. They're all good !! 

Great post

 I totally agree as over 90% of City and Guilds attendees are experienced or have been window cleaning for more than a year.

The City and guilds QCF qualification is designed to test your ability to actually do they job. A key part of our course will include proving that you have knowledge and can do certain work-related tasks; during the course a portfolio of work is created where we build evidence of the work you have done and by observation, where an assessor watches you work and checks that you can do the task. We then also provide training and point people towards other suitable training needs.

Interestingly most recommendations we make for other training is towards other training suppliers. IPAF, PASMA, IRATA, BWCA courses, Self-rescue,

I agree we need more start up and general window cleaning coaching training and it is something we are and have been working on as a recognized training provider.  Its one of the reasons we have put a dedicated training van on the road. I am currently working on a start up mentoring course. May even have some funding?

All I would ask and focus on at the moment is that training providers and coaches should have proven ability, accredited; that trainers need to be experienced and accountable.

PS I still like the idea of window cleaners helping each other out, ......unpaid

Regards  Andy

[Andrew Willis]

Hi Andrew

I would gladly sit the course again, especially considering how much money I made on the last one

 

[wfp master]

starting my uni course next month its only for 5 days but when i finish it i will be a professor  of window cleaning. then i will open the school of window cleaning for anyone wanting to learn the secrets of the job. i will make millions then retire. 

[keyser soze]

starting my uni course next month its only for 5 days but when i finish it i will be a professor  of window cleaning. then i will open the school of window cleaning for anyone wanting to learn the secrets of the job. i will make millions then retire. 





can i go on that course too?